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CP3去湖人, P.Gasol 去火箭, 黃蜂得到Odom/K.Martin/Scola/Dragic

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  •  12-09-2011, 10:59 上午 405461 in reply to 405459

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    CP3 交易案不被 Stern 核準



    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AqyHn6wCIFSjbkrGcxkHjpk5nYcB?slug=aw-wojnarowski_chris_paul_lakers_hornets_nba_120811

    Stern kills Lakers’ deal for Paul

    NBA commissioner David Stern has killed the New Orleans Hornets’ trade of Chris Paul after several owners complained about the league-owned team dealing the All-Star point guard to the Los Angeles Lakers, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

    Some owners pushed Stern to demand the trade be nullified, and the Hornets be made to keep Paul on the roster for the foreseeable future, sources said. A chorus of owners were irate with the belief that the five-month lockout had happened largely to stop big-market teams from leveraging small-market teams for star players pending free agency.

    “The deal is off,” a source involved in the talks told Y! Sports. “It’s dead.”

    Hornets general manager Dell Demps is “disconsolate” over this stunning, heavy-handed move from the commissioner’s office, a source told Y! Sports.

    All the players involved in the trade have been told to report to their teams for the start of training camp on Friday.

    Before Stern intervened, the Lakers had reached an agreement to acquire Paul in a three-team trade that would have cost them Pau Gasol andLamar Odom, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

    Under terms of the deal, the Lakers would have sent Gasol to the Rockets. The Hornets would have received Odom, Rockets guards Kevin Martinand Goran Dragic and forward Luis Scola, league sources said.

    Houston had also agreed to send a 2012 first-round pick – previously obtained from the Knicks – to New Orleans as part of the package, a source said.

    Hornets general manager Dell Demps had informed two of the other finalists for Paul on Thursday evening that he had a deal in place for Paul to go the Lakers, front-office sources said.

    Paul had listed the Lakers as one of his preferred destinations, and it became a more clear choice for him on Thursday after the New York Knicks moved to the brink of completing a four-year, $58 million contract for free-agent center Tyson Chandler. The Knicks lost the salary-cap space they would’ve needed to sign Paul this summer, and the Lakers had been pushing hard to close a deal for Paul with Houston and New Orleans.

    The Lakers could turn their attention toward using center Andrew Bynum as a trading chip to make a play for Orlando Magic center Dwight Howard.


  •  12-09-2011, 11:10 上午 405463 in reply to 405461

    Re: CP3 交易案不被 Stern 核準

    似乎是在說很多老闆抗議當初封館的原因就是要防止這種大市場球隊不停堆積球星?


  •  12-09-2011, 11:48 上午 405465 in reply to 405446

    Re: CP3去湖人, P.Gasol 去火箭, 黃蜂得到Odom/K.Martin/Scola/Dragic

    請附上消息來源...link
  •  12-09-2011, 11:54 上午 405467 in reply to 405446

    Re: CP3去湖人, P.Gasol 去火箭, 黃蜂得到Odom/K.Martin/Scola/Dragic

    lanqiufan:

    andy80605:
    一早起來就看到這令人震驚的消息.....,但湖人的前場怎麼辦?剩下Bynum嗎?

    Howard不是明年的自由球員?

    沒錯, 我沒寫清楚, 湖人是要用 Bynum 換 Howard

     請附上link~~~ 

  •  12-09-2011, 12:22 下午 405470 in reply to 405467

    Re: CP3去湖人, P.Gasol 去火箭, 黃蜂得到Odom/K.Martin/Scola/Dragic

  •  12-09-2011, 12:23 下午 405471 in reply to 405461

    Re: CP3 交易案不被 Stern 核準

    雖說Stern干預早在預期之中,但沒想到他會等到交易談定後才大動作出手。

    我一直以為他只會在檯面下勸說。 

  •  12-09-2011, 12:36 下午 405474 in reply to 405471

    Re: CP3 交易案不被 Stern 核準

    cowbay:

    雖說Stern干預早在預期之中,但沒想到他會等到交易談定後才大動作出手。

    我一直以為他只會在檯面下勸說。 

    漂亮一點就設法讓"身體檢查"不能通過就可以達成目的了。

    可見Stern也想秀一手就是了。


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  •  12-09-2011, 1:06 下午 405477 in reply to 405474

    Re: CP3 交易案不被 Stern 核準

    有消息稱,Stern否決這筆三方交易,是因為Howard即將被交易到湖人。@@
    波神註定要成為傳奇。
  •  12-09-2011, 1:27 下午 405478 in reply to 405477

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    Re: CP3 交易案不被 Stern 核準

    想請問,有人知道NBA或Stern是以什麼理由否決交易的嗎?

    對NBA的規則在這方面不太瞭解

    是NBA當局或Stern不需要任何理由,只要否決,就可以否決嗎?

    或是因為這個交易違反了哪條規則呢?

     

    其實以這個交易本身來說,Gasol+Odom換Paul,對Lakers來說,感覺沒變強

    就算以Lakers的如意算盤,換來了Howard

    那後場Paul+Kobe,前場Artest+Howard+?

    這樣的陣容,其實不見得比現在好多少,SF上,Artest的嚴重退化

    PF則是根本沒有人,就算魔獸再強,但還是離當年O'neal一夫當關還有一段距離

    更別說第六人及替補了...還有,萬一沒換到Howard,那內線的洞可就更難補了

     

    總之,這個交易暫時是破局了,就看將來還有什麼變化了

  •  12-09-2011, 1:40 下午 405479 in reply to 405478

    Re: CP3 交易案不被 Stern 核準

    任何交易都需要聯盟批准。只是以前都從寬認定,想不起來聯盟何時動用過否決權。 

    黃蜂是聯盟接管,每一支球隊的老闆(理論上)都有資格出聲。 

  •  12-09-2011, 1:58 下午 405481 in reply to 405459

    Re: CP3去湖人, P.Gasol 去火箭, 黃蜂得到Odom/K.Martin/Scola/Dragic

    比較好奇的是 要是CP3也跑去尼克 那聯盟不就也要否決了
  •  12-09-2011, 2:24 下午 405484 in reply to 405479

    Re: CP3 交易案不被 Stern 核準

    cowbay:

    任何交易都需要聯盟批准。只是以前都從寬認定,想不起來聯盟何時動用過否決權。 

    黃蜂是聯盟接管,每一支球隊的老闆(理論上)都有資格出聲。 

    想想黃蜂GM也蠻可憐的

    上頭有2X個老闆在對他"指指點點"

    根據馬路消息指出,CP3對聯盟此一決定大為火光,揚言拒絕再為黃蜂出賽

    這下有好戲看了

     


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  •  12-09-2011, 2:24 下午 405485 in reply to 405481

    Re: CP3去湖人, P.Gasol 去火箭, 黃蜂得到Odom/K.Martin/Scola/Dragic

    Yingsong:
    比較好奇的是 要是CP3也跑去尼克 那聯盟不就也要否決了

    自然也是否決吧

    前面講到黃蜂的老闆是其他29隊共管,想換去尼克其他28隊都反對,哪換得成?

    管他去了,湖人(或尼克或其他隊)會變弱還是變強,我就是不爽同意不行?

    目前讓他在黃蜂打完這季,之後各隊憑本事(跟薪資空間)簽是多數隊比較樂見的

    但Paul已經表示他不準備參加黃蜂季前訓,要換他趁早...


  •  12-09-2011, 2:34 下午 405486 in reply to 405484

    Re: CP3 交易案不被 Stern 核準

    carlliu:
    cowbay:

    任何交易都需要聯盟批准。只是以前都從寬認定,想不起來聯盟何時動用過否決權。 

    黃蜂是聯盟接管,每一支球隊的老闆(理論上)都有資格出聲。 

    想想黃蜂GM也蠻可憐的

    上頭有2X個老闆在對他"指指點點"

    根據馬路消息指出,CP3對聯盟此一決定大為火光,揚言拒絕再為黃蜂出賽

    這下有好戲看了

    這GM可不能想著什麼雙贏或三贏的交易--你們雙贏不就代表其他28隊輸了?

    Paul送給爛隊換個二輪選秀權之類的,聯盟才可能同意...

    重點1.不能去大城市組球星合體,否則光眼紅就會投反對票

    重點2.不能讓黃蜂變強,黃蜂要變弱才符合多數球隊利益


  •  12-09-2011, 2:36 下午 405487 in reply to 405484

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    Re: CP3 交易案不被 Stern 核準

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ys-nba_dan_gilbert_email_lakers_hornets_trade_120811

    Cavs owner wanted trade blocked

    Cleveland Cavaliers owner Dan Gilbert called the New Orleans Hornets’ proposed trade of Chris Paul to theLos Angeles Lakers a “travesty,” and urged NBA commissioner David Stern to put the deal to vote of the league’s 29 owners in an email obtained by Yahoo! Sports. Gilbert sent the email to Stern, deputy commissioner Adam Silver and a handful of Gilbert’s ownership peers on Thursday.

    The following is the email in its entirety:

    Commissioner,

    It would be a travesty to allow the Lakers to acquire Chris Paul in the apparent trade being discussed.

    This trade should go to a vote of the 29 owners of the Hornets.

    Over the next three seasons this deal would save the Lakers approximately $20 million in salaries and approximately $21 million in luxury taxes. That $21 million goes to non-taxpaying teams and to fund revenue sharing.

    I cannot remember ever seeing a trade where a team got by far the best player in the trade and saved over $40 million in the process. And it doesn’t appear that they would give up any draft picks, which might allow to later make a trade for Dwight Howard. (They would also get a large trade exception that would help them improve their team and/or eventually trade for Howard.) When the Lakers got Pau Gasol (at the time considered an extremely lopsided trade) they took on tens of millions in additional salary and luxury tax and they gave up a number of prospects (one in Marc Gasol who may become a max-salary player).

    I just don’t see how we can allow this trade to happen.

    I know the vast majority of owners feel the same way that I do.

    When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?

    Please advise….

    Dan G.

    An NBA spokesman said owners “didn’t kill the deal,” instead citing “basketball reasons,” for why the league office blocked the trade. 

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