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想跟大家談談Rondo的事情

在 07-11-2015, 10:57 上午 由 Kawakami Rinitsu 發表.第 21 篇回覆.
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  •  07-01-2015, 11:53 下午 494059 in reply to 493988

    Re: 想跟大家談談Rondo的事情

    Tony Jones ‏@Tjonessltrib

    So Philly took Thompson, Stauskas, Landry, AND A FIRST ROUND PICK from Sacramento??? For Rajon Rondo??? I wanna be a GM
    ==
    國王送出一堆東西跟首輪給76人

    空出薪資簽Rondo的前奏

  •  07-02-2015, 4:58 上午 494085 in reply to 494059

    Re: 想跟大家談談Rondo的事情

    Red Jazz:
    Tony Jones ‏@Tjonessltrib

    So Philly took Thompson, Stauskas, Landry, AND A FIRST ROUND PICK from Sacramento??? For Rajon Rondo??? I wanna be a GM
    ==
    國王送出一堆東西跟首輪給76人

    空出薪資簽Rondo的前奏

    是這樣子的: In Hinkie we trust !

    這枚 FIRST ROUND PICK 是在 16/17 年都是 top 10 保護 (Kings), 但是如為第 11 順位或以下, 則給 Chicago, 76 人對此有交換權, 例如在 Lottery 順位高於 76 人自己的, 則 Sixers 可以交換, 例如 Kings 在 2016 抽中狀元, 而 Sixers "只" 有 Pick #6, 則 Sixers 取得狀元籤, 2017 年亦同, 亦即 76ers 在 2016 可能有二次抽中狀元的機率

    76ers 在 2016 年擁有的 Picks:

    •1st round pick – 76ers
    •1st round pick – Lakers (unless it falls in the top 3)
    •1st round pick – Heat (unless it falls in the top 10)
    •1st round pick – Thunder (unless it falls in top 15)
    •1st round pick – Kings (Sixers get better of their own pick or Kings pick, assuming Kings pick falls in top-10).
    •2nd round pick – Nuggets

    ===

    以下來自一位 realgm fan 的整理: 

    I mean, look at Hinkie's haul in just 1 year, pretty much via the draft and trade(s) (from last summer to this):

    All we pretty much traded away was MCW and some cap space (that had to eventually be spent somehow anyways)

    Joel Embiid
    Jahlil Okafor
    Nik Stauskas
    Dario Saric
    Robert Covington (4 year deal at 1M per season)
    Jerami Grant
    KJ McDaniels (traded for Isaiah Canaan and 2nd rounders)
    Jordan McRae
    Pierre Jackson
    LAL 1st round pick
    Miami 1st round pick
    OKC 1st round pick
    SAC 1st round pick
    Rights to swap 1st round picks w/ SAC in 2 drafts
    A few Euro stash's
    Multiple future 2nd round picks
    J.P Tokoto
    Holmes

    This is a HELL of a accumulation of assets in a short period of time.

    ===

    Brown 在 Interview 提到過, 以為去年球隊會選到 Wiggins + Stauskas, 很高興 Stauskas 終於來了

    我想, landry 和 Hollis Thompson 可能球隊不會留, 會進一步拿去交換球隊需要的 shooter/pg, 或第二輪, 希望 Aldrige 如果真去了 Spurs, 那我們可能對 Mills 或 Joseph 有機會 



    Bjork本人就是音樂!
  •  07-02-2015, 5:11 上午 494087 in reply to 494085

    Re: 想跟大家談談Rondo的事情

    Kawakami Rinitsu:

    Red Jazz:
    Tony Jones ‏@Tjonessltrib

    So Philly took Thompson, Stauskas, Landry, AND A FIRST ROUND PICK from Sacramento??? For Rajon Rondo??? I wanna be a GM
    ==
    國王送出一堆東西跟首輪給76人

    空出薪資簽Rondo的前奏

    是這樣子的: In Hinkie we trust !

    這枚 FIRST ROUND PICK 是在 16/17 年都是 top 10 保護 (Kings), 但是如為第 11 順位或以下, 則給 Chicago, 76 人對此有交換權, 例如在 Lottery 順位高於 76 人自己的, 則 Sixers 可以交換, 例如 Kings 在 2016 抽中狀元, 而 Sixers "只" 有 Pick #6, 則 Sixers 取得狀元籤, 2017 年亦同, 亦即 76ers 在 2016 可能有二次抽中狀元的機率

    76ers 在 2016 年擁有的 Picks:

    •1st round pick – 76ers
    •1st round pick – Lakers (unless it falls in the top 3)
    •1st round pick – Heat (unless it falls in the top 10)
    •1st round pick – Thunder (unless it falls in top 15)
    •1st round pick – Kings (Sixers get better of their own pick or Kings pick, assuming Kings pick falls in top-10).
    •2nd round pick – Nuggets

    ===

    以下來自一位 realgm fan 的整理: 

    I mean, look at Hinkie's haul in just 1 year, pretty much via the draft and trade(s) (from last summer to this):

    All we pretty much traded away was MCW and some cap space (that had to eventually be spent somehow anyways)

    Joel Embiid
    Jahlil Okafor
    Nik Stauskas
    Dario Saric
    Robert Covington (4 year deal at 1M per season)
    Jerami Grant
    KJ McDaniels (traded for Isaiah Canaan and 2nd rounders)
    Jordan McRae
    Pierre Jackson
    LAL 1st round pick
    Miami 1st round pick
    OKC 1st round pick
    SAC 1st round pick
    Rights to swap 1st round picks w/ SAC in 2 drafts
    A few Euro stash's
    Multiple future 2nd round picks
    J.P Tokoto
    Holmes

    This is a HELL of a accumulation of assets in a short period of time.

    ===

    Brown 在 Interview 提到過, 以為去年球隊會選到 Wiggins + Stauskas, 很高興 Stauskas 終於來了

    我想, landry 和 Hollis Thompson 可能球隊不會留, 會進一步拿去交換球隊需要的 shooter/pg, 或第二輪, 希望 Aldrige 如果真去了 Spurs, 那我們可能對 Mills 或 Joseph 有機會 

    KR大我想請教一個問題

    如果16年國王的那枚籤剛好在第11順位(給Chicago),然後七六人的首輪籤又剛好在第12順位或更後面,這樣七六人可以對那枚給Chicago的籤行使交換權嗎?

    在此先謝謝KR大的解答 

  •  07-03-2015, 6:31 下午 494206 in reply to 494087

    Re: 想跟大家談談Rondo的事情

    Rajon Rondo 在國王重新出發,他的後場搭檔 Ben McLemore 可能要負擔多ㄧ點,防守。 
    然而,兩位老大 Rudy Gay 和 DeMarcus Cousins,拿得到球嗎 ?



    Jeremy Lin
    Be yourself,try your best !
  •  07-03-2015, 8:49 下午 494211 in reply to 494206

    Re: 想跟大家談談Rondo的事情

    kobe8best:
    Rajon Rondo 在國王重新出發,他的後場搭檔 Ben McLemore 可能要負擔多ㄧ點,防守。 
    然而,兩位老大 Rudy Gay 和 DeMarcus Cousins,拿得到球嗎 ?


    說實在的, Rondo的可塑性已經在綠衫軍時期給磨掉了, 真的不太適合去一個已經有了"固定班底 or 基石"的球隊..

    若要打得好除非教練或球隊內基石全力相挺..

    我不太看好他和Gay/Cousins之間的磨合, 同時他恐怖的投籃與罰球命中率也不適合Karl的體系..

    其實Karl過去而言並不會太強求控衛具備三分能力, 在其進攻體系(DDM)中基本中距離與罰球是關鍵; Rondo真的要好好著重在開發自己上.. 

    反倒今年分崩離析的小牛, 還可能比較適合Rondo, 只能說他來的時間不對, 來得早不如來得巧..

     

  •  07-03-2015, 10:15 下午 494221 in reply to 493846

    Rajon Rondo簽約Kings, 1年1000萬

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/source--rajon-rondo-to-sign-one-year-contract-with-kings-233655527.html

    Sources: Rajon Rondo to sign one-year contract with Kings

    By 3 hours agoYahoo Sports

     Rajon Rondo has agreed to a one-year, $10 million contract with the Sacramento Kings, league sources told Yahoo Sports.

     

    Rondo's options were limited after his tumultuous half-season stay with the Dallas Mavericks ended when the team declared a back injury would sideline him for the remainder of its first-round playoff series. He has a chance to build back his value with the Kings and re-enter the free-agent market next summer.

    Rondo agreed to the contract on Friday afternoon after meeting with Kings president of basketball operations Vlade Divac in Sacramento. The Kings have been interested in Rondo since last season when they attempted to acquire him before he was dealt to the Dallas Mavericks from the Boston Celtics.

    Rondo asked the Kings for a shooter, sources said. That led Sacramento to reach agreement on a three-year, $18 million contract with free-agent guard Marco Belinelli, who spent the past two seasons with the San Antonio Spurs and is a career 39.2 percent 3-point shooter.

    The Kings started the offseason $10 million under the salary cap and increased to $26 million after sending the contracts of Carl Landry, Jason Thompson and Nik Stauskas to the Philadelphia 76ers.Sacramento missed out on its efforts to sign free agents Monta Ellis and Wesley Matthews, but landed Rondo.

    Rondo, 29, averaged 9.3 points, 6.5 assists and 1.2 steals in 46 games with the Mavericks after the midseason trade.

     

     

     

     

     

     

  •  07-11-2015, 10:57 上午 494718 in reply to 494087

    Re: 想跟大家談談Rondo的事情

    caster7:
    Kawakami Rinitsu:

    Red Jazz:
    Tony Jones ‏@Tjonessltrib

    So Philly took Thompson, Stauskas, Landry, AND A FIRST ROUND PICK from Sacramento??? For Rajon Rondo??? I wanna be a GM
    ==
    國王送出一堆東西跟首輪給76人

    空出薪資簽Rondo的前奏

    是這樣子的: In Hinkie we trust !

    這枚 FIRST ROUND PICK 是在 16/17 年都是 top 10 保護 (Kings), 但是如為第 11 順位或以下, 則給 Chicago, 76 人對此有交換權, 例如在 Lottery 順位高於 76 人自己的, 則 Sixers 可以交換, 例如 Kings 在 2016 抽中狀元, 而 Sixers "只" 有 Pick #6, 則 Sixers 取得狀元籤, 2017 年亦同, 亦即 76ers 在 2016 可能有二次抽中狀元的機率

    76ers 在 2016 年擁有的 Picks:

    •1st round pick – 76ers
    •1st round pick – Lakers (unless it falls in the top 3)
    •1st round pick – Heat (unless it falls in the top 10)
    •1st round pick – Thunder (unless it falls in top 15)
    •1st round pick – Kings (Sixers get better of their own pick or Kings pick, assuming Kings pick falls in top-10).
    •2nd round pick – Nuggets

    ===

    以下來自一位 realgm fan 的整理: 

    I mean, look at Hinkie's haul in just 1 year, pretty much via the draft and trade(s) (from last summer to this):

    All we pretty much traded away was MCW and some cap space (that had to eventually be spent somehow anyways)

    Joel Embiid
    Jahlil Okafor
    Nik Stauskas
    Dario Saric
    Robert Covington (4 year deal at 1M per season)
    Jerami Grant
    KJ McDaniels (traded for Isaiah Canaan and 2nd rounders)
    Jordan McRae
    Pierre Jackson
    LAL 1st round pick
    Miami 1st round pick
    OKC 1st round pick
    SAC 1st round pick
    Rights to swap 1st round picks w/ SAC in 2 drafts
    A few Euro stash's
    Multiple future 2nd round picks
    J.P Tokoto
    Holmes

    This is a HELL of a accumulation of assets in a short period of time.

    ===

    Brown 在 Interview 提到過, 以為去年球隊會選到 Wiggins + Stauskas, 很高興 Stauskas 終於來了

    我想, landry 和 Hollis Thompson 可能球隊不會留, 會進一步拿去交換球隊需要的 shooter/pg, 或第二輪, 希望 Aldrige 如果真去了 Spurs, 那我們可能對 Mills 或 Joseph 有機會 

    KR大我想請教一個問題

    如果16年國王的那枚籤剛好在第11順位(給Chicago),然後七六人的首輪籤又剛好在第12順位或更後面,這樣七六人可以對那枚給Chicago的籤行使交換權嗎?

    在此先謝謝KR大的解答 

    現在回到你的問題, 我現在手邊的資料有些更新, 顯示之前的說法有些錯誤, 關於國王給的選秀權:

    2016 first round draft pick from Sacramento
    Philadelphia has the right to swap its 2016 1st round pick for Sacramento's 2016 1st round pick protected for selections 11-30 (if the Sacramento pick falls within its protected range, then Philadelphia's swap right and Sacramento's obligation to Philadelphia will be extinguished) [Philadelphia-Sacramento, 7/9/2015]

    2017 first round draft pick from Sacramento
    If Sacramento conveys a 1st round pick to Chicago in 2016, then Philadelphia has the right to swap its 2017 1st round pick for Sacramento's 2017 1st round pick; if Sacramento does not convey a 1st round pick to Chicago in 2016, then Philadelphia has the right to swap its 2017 1st round pick for Sacramento's 2017 1st round pick protected for selections 11-30 (if the Sacramento pick falls within its protected range, then Philadelphia's swap right and Sacramento's obligation to Philadelphia will be extinguished) [Philadelphia Sacramento, 7/9/2015]

    2018 first round draft pick from Sacramento
    Sacramento's 1st round pick to Philadelphia protected for selections 1-10 in 2018 (conveyable if Sacramento conveys a 1st round pick to Chicago in 2016) and unprotected in 2019 [Philadelphia-Sacramento, 7/9/2015]

    我認為, 如果 Kings 在 2016 年自己的給了公牛的話, Sixers 在 2018 應該就能拿到這枚 Kings-Pick, 否則 76人在 2019 年一定會拿到, 因為 Stepien 條款, 球隊不能夠連續 2 年都交易掉自己的第一輪



    Bjork本人就是音樂!
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