pick your top 5 SG of all time
在 10-21-2006, 4:41 下午 由 lincc 發表.第 19 篇回覆.
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10-19-2006, 1:21 下午 |
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your_airness
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pick your top 5 SG of all time
#1 Michael "Air" Jordan
#2 Jerry "Mr Clutch" West
#3 Dwyane "Flash" Wade
#4 Kobe "81" Bryant
#5 Clyde Drexler / Reggie Miler
sounds good???
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10-19-2006, 2:13 下午 |
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10-19-2006, 2:26 下午 |
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10-19-2006, 6:09 下午 |
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your_airness
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Re: pick your top 5 SG of all time
interesting, i put wade ahead of kobe based on one major reason :
wade can beat super tough defense
kobe can't
i would like to point out that the 2006 pistons was just as good as the 2004 pistons, if not any better. Sure the 2006 pistons didn't have larry brown, but hey they did win a team record 64 wins, right???
honestly Wade killed Detroit's defense in both 2005 and 2006 conference finals ( 40 pts in game 2 2005, over 60% shooting in 2006)
kobe's jumpers and penetration got SHUT DOWN by Tay Prince and Ben Wallace in the 2004 final
and at the time kobe was playing with a Shaq who hasn't declined much from his prime
kobe may score more points but he is not as efficent as Wade
Shaq got his 4th ring as Wade's sidekick kobe got all 3 of his as Shaq's sidekick, that is why kobe never won a final mvp
BIG DIFFERENCE
Finally, we all saw Mr. 81 choose to give up in game 7 against Phoneix by scoring just 2 points after half time. How many points did he score against Raptors in that 81 point game after half time????
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sorry but i just can not put him up any further on my all time list
PEACE
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10-19-2006, 7:09 下午 |
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10-19-2006, 7:12 下午 |
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10-20-2006, 5:05 上午 |
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不覺得Kobe在第七戰give up.Phil也說他們的策略是讓大家拼,可惜功敗垂成.
今年裁判對Wade的偏愛大家有目共睹,他當然不會被shut down.而且在Wade只打了三年時,就把他放進all time best名單太早了,應該看久一點吧.
#1 Jordan
#2 Kobe
#3 Drexler
#4 Jerry West
#5 Reggie Miller
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10-20-2006, 6:07 下午 |
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對80年代的球員沒有這麼熟,所以不敢亂說…
但是我覺得發文的所寫的WADE…才剛起步沒有多久,應該很難入列吧!
(我能說拿Penny或是Hill最光榮的時刻出來說他整個職業生涯嗎?應該不好吧!)
另外,我也覺得老米是有殺手特質…但是要說Top SG of all time...我覺得他真的還排不行!
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10-20-2006, 8:58 下午 |
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Hector McBeellies
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Re: pick your top 5 SG of all time
your_airness: interesting, i put wade ahead of kobe based on one major reason :
wade can beat super tough defense
kobe can't
i would like to point out that the 2006 pistons was just as good as the 2004 pistons, if not any better. Sure the 2006 pistons didn't have larry brown, but hey they did win a team record 64 wins, right???
honestly Wade killed Detroit's defense in both 2005 and 2006 conference finals ( 40 pts in game 2 2005, over 60% shooting in 2006)
kobe's jumpers and penetration got SHUT DOWN by Tay Prince and Ben Wallace in the 2004 final
and at the time kobe was playing with a Shaq who hasn't declined much from his prime
kobe may score more points but he is not as efficent as Wade
Shaq got his 4th ring as Wade's sidekick kobe got all 3 of his as Shaq's sidekick, that is why kobe never won a final mvp
BIG DIFFERENCE
Finally, we all saw Mr. 81 choose to give up in game 7 against Phoneix by scoring just 2 points after half time. How many points did he score against Raptors in that 81 point game after half time????
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sorry but i just can not put him up any further on my all time list
PEACE
發了一堆嘴砲文 擺明就是在罵KOBE拉 不是嗎???
這樣還在尾巴加個什麼PEACE???
PEACE個鬼頭
這種結果論的發文 如果不是來挑釁是來幹麻???
ひらひら花びらの舞う春の午後には 祈りを誓いにかえるよ........ 一番の大事な事忘れすに 輝いていてほしいよ.......
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10-20-2006, 9:23 下午 |
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他明明就只是照他看到的東西說出自己的想法, 哪來的挑釁?
倒是你口氣那麼衝, 也沒說他哪裡講的不對, 哪部份再打嘴砲, 給人家看起來你更像在挑釁.
回歸正題:
1. Michael Jordan
2. Allen Iverson
3. Reggie Miller
4. Kobe Bryant
5. Jerry West
主觀意識很重, Iverson跟Miller都是我很喜歡的球員. 這樣的排法的確是高估他們了, 只是我也想不太到其他人就是了
linzuie:
your_airness: interesting, i put wade ahead of kobe based on one major reason :
wade can beat super tough defense
kobe can't
i would like to point out that the 2006 pistons was just as good as the 2004 pistons, if not any better. Sure the 2006 pistons didn't have larry brown, but hey they did win a team record 64 wins, right???
honestly Wade killed Detroit's defense in both 2005 and 2006 conference finals ( 40 pts in game 2 2005, over 60% shooting in 2006)
kobe's jumpers and penetration got SHUT DOWN by Tay Prince and Ben Wallace in the 2004 final
and at the time kobe was playing with a Shaq who hasn't declined much from his prime
kobe may score more points but he is not as efficent as Wade
Shaq got his 4th ring as Wade's sidekick kobe got all 3 of his as Shaq's sidekick, that is why kobe never won a final mvp
BIG DIFFERENCE
Finally, we all saw Mr. 81 choose to give up in game 7 against Phoneix by scoring just 2 points after half time. How many points did he score against Raptors in that 81 point game after half time????
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sorry but i just can not put him up any further on my all time list
PEACE
發了一堆嘴砲文 擺明就是在罵KOBE拉 不是嗎???
這樣還在尾巴加個什麼PEACE???
PEACE個鬼頭
這種結果論的發文 如果不是來挑釁是來幹麻???
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10-20-2006, 9:41 下午 |
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your_airness
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Re: pick your top 5 SG of all time
allenJr: 對80年代的球員沒有這麼熟,所以不敢亂說…
但是我覺得發文的所寫的WADE…才剛起步沒有多久,應該很難入列吧!
(我能說拿Penny或是Hill最光榮的時刻出來說他整個職業生涯嗎?應該不好吧!)
另外,我也覺得老米是有殺手特質…但是要說Top SG of all time...我覺得他真的還排不行! The ony all time best SG from the 80 i can remember is MJ
If you want to compare the best years of penny and hill, that is fine, but that only further proves Wade is a better player. Because Grant Hill, even before his foot surgery, can never make out of 1st round in playoffs, and Penny Hardways couldn't help Shaq get their first ring in the 1995 final, only to get swept by Olajuwon and the 72 win Bulls in the next year. penny ran out of magic after Shaq went to LA after the 1996 season.
A player is on the all time list not because how long he played, but about how good he already is, how better can he be in the future and how much he has acommplished.
Do you know Shaq was added to the 50 Greatest Player list in 1996??
He had played just 3 seansons at that time..........
can you easily name one SG besides MJ, Jerry West, Wade in the long NBA history who has led his team to a title and was named final mvp???
Sorry, no KOBE, no Drexler, no Tmac, no vince carter
If you are going to say Oscar Robertson or Magic Johnshon, I am sorry but they play PG
the only one i can think of is Joe Dumars in 1989, great defender but not as good as West, MJ, wade in scoring, besides, Dumars got a lot of team help from his BAD BOYS
even as good as kobe, i still think wade's higher basketball IQ( like willing to pass the ball to Shaq or other teammates) marks the difference between the two. Wade knows how to attract defense to create offense for others. Kobe probably knows that too but he will tell you - in this world he only trusts himself and he may not be a happy person if he has to pass to his teammates
kobe will be remembered by the world as a greate great great scorer
wade and lebron will be rememberd as WINNER of this decade
bottom line is - Dwayne Wade is the REAL DEAL, and he is destined to make the all time best list.
P.S. Kobe fans may not like what i say here, but at least we can all agree MJ is simply the best ever. 23 >>> 24 = 8..................thank you, have a good day
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10-20-2006, 9:49 下午 |
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Re: pick your top 5 SG of all time
linzuie: your_airness: interesting, i put wade ahead of kobe based on one major reason :
wade can beat super tough defense
kobe can't
i would like to point out that the 2006 pistons was just as good as the 2004 pistons, if not any better. Sure the 2006 pistons didn't have larry brown, but hey they did win a team record 64 wins, right???
honestly Wade killed Detroit's defense in both 2005 and 2006 conference finals ( 40 pts in game 2 2005, over 60% shooting in 2006)
kobe's jumpers and penetration got SHUT DOWN by Tay Prince and Ben Wallace in the 2004 final
and at the time kobe was playing with a Shaq who hasn't declined much from his prime
kobe may score more points but he is not as efficent as Wade
Shaq got his 4th ring as Wade's sidekick kobe got all 3 of his as Shaq's sidekick, that is why kobe never won a final mvp
BIG DIFFERENCE
Finally, we all saw Mr. 81 choose to give up in game 7 against Phoneix by scoring just 2 points after half time. How many points did he score against Raptors in that 81 point game after half time????
55
sorry but i just can not put him up any further on my all time list
PEACE
發了一堆嘴砲文 擺明就是在罵KOBE拉 不是嗎???
這樣還在尾巴加個什麼PEACE???
PEACE個鬼頭
這種結果論的發文 如果不是來挑釁是來幹麻???
hey DUDE, kobe is #4 on my all time SG list, there just happens to be other SGs even better than kobe. That is the fact, LIVE WITH IT
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10-20-2006, 9:58 下午 |
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Re: pick your top 5 SG of all time
不好意思 您講的真是有道理
我覺得WADE和LBJ都好強喔
他們都有主宰比賽和裁判的的能力 果然威
KOBE只能再一旁乞憐著一兩場勝差
到最後一事無成
KOBE真爛 喔我不能只罵罵KOBE
T-MAC&VC可能都被時代拋棄了八
現在只有03梯才能出頭天
03T最強了~~YAYAYA
ひらひら花びらの舞う春の午後には 祈りを誓いにかえるよ........ 一番の大事な事忘れすに 輝いていてほしいよ.......
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10-20-2006, 10:14 下午 |
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Re: pick your top 5 SG of all time
linzuie:
不好意思 您講的真是有道理
我覺得WADE和LBJ都好強喔
他們都有主宰比賽和裁判的的能力 果然威
KOBE只能再一旁乞憐著一兩場勝差
到最後一事無成
KOBE真爛 喔我不能只罵罵KOBE
T-MAC&VC可能都被時代拋棄了八
現在只有03梯才能出頭天
03T最強了~~YAYAYA
喔 你是在幫誰說話 主宰裁判的能力?? 這我不否認啦 尤其連國小生都知道 沒人會在最後一分差對方罰球時 喊出暫停 但Josh Howard不知道 國中生都知道 半場跳過來接球算是回場 NBA總冠軍賽裁判不知道 墊步後再走兩步算是走步 但LBJ和裁判都不知道 主宰裁判的能力算是很偉大 只有你知道!!
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10-20-2006, 10:34 下午 |
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convey1227
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Re: pick your top 5 SG of all time
討論歸討論
沒必要這麼火大吧!?
另外~
我向來對這類的問題很反感~
EX:什麼排第幾名的啦~誰哪方面最強的啦?誰跟誰比較的啦?心目中的幾名的啦!
這類的問題根本就是很主觀的問題
完全沒有標準的答案
在家族、PTT、各論壇都常常看到~
或許這類的問題很容易引起大家的興趣
但是也是最容易引發筆戰的議題
上帝啊!施捨點恩惠吧~
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