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  •  06-26-2012, 10:04 上午 427311

    西雅圖超音速雙槍再一次聚首(附連結)

    http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/miamiheat/post/_/id/14962/another-hall-of-famer-to-heat

    出處

    不知道可性度高不高

     

    另外我想請教各位大大的是

     

    Ray以他這幾年養身打法,以及體態保持良好

    有無可能打到40歲?

    當年Reggie Miller 打到39歲才退休

    還有就是這兩年Ray的三分球單季的總命數是多少?(命中率?)

    有無可能達到史無前例的3千顆三分球?

    感謝各位大大回答Yes

     

  •  06-26-2012, 10:18 上午 427312 in reply to 427311

    Re: Ray allen傳出跟熱火有互相合作的共識(附連結)

    L吳興街扛報紙:

    當年Reggie Miller 打到39歲才退休

    還有就是這兩年Ray的三分球單季的總命數是多少?(命中率?)

    有無可能達到史無前例的3千顆三分球?

     

     2011  出賽80場  168顆3P  44.4%

    2012  出賽42場 106顆3P  45.3%

    生涯2718顆(差282)

    打的到39歲 絕對可以3000顆

     

    常說Rondo 依賴三句頭

    如今到要看看Ray  沒有Rondo 可以繳出多少的命中率 和 出手數

  •  06-26-2012, 10:27 上午 427314 in reply to 427312

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    Re: Ray allen傳出跟熱火有互相合作的共識(附連結)

    http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/221687/Ray_Allen_Heat_Have_Mutual_Interest 

    Ray Allen, Heat Have Mutual Interest

    According to multiple league sources, there is mutual interest between the Heat and Ray Allen.

    Miami can offer a contract starting at $3 million per year to Allen, the taxpayer's midlevel.

    ViaBrian Windhorst/ESPN


  •  06-26-2012, 10:29 上午 427315 in reply to 427314

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    Re: Ray allen傳出跟熱火有互相合作的共識(附連結)

    http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/miamiheat/post/_/id/14962/another-hall-of-famer-to-heat

    Ray Allen 
    Steve Mitchell/US Presswire
    Could the Heat defend their title with future Hall of Famer Ray Allen in the fold? Interest is mutual.

    MIAMI -- The celebration isn’t done yet, but the Miami Heat’s plans for the future are under way. All champions want to repeat, and of course, the Heat already have expectations they’ll do so. Oddsmakers have installed them as next year’s title favorite. 

    What are their plans to attempt live up to it? 

    With a banner going up, their roster of stars and their attractive location, the Heat will be in play for some potential impact free agents, including Ray Allen, Lamar Odom, Steve Nash and Andre Miller, to name a few. 

    The Heat also have a first-round pick, No. 27, this week that they are expected to use on a backup big man such as Fab Melo of Syracuse, Andrew Nicholson of St. Bonaventure or Festus Ezeli of Vanderbilt depending on who might be available. 

    So the rich get richer? Maybe. 

    In the playoffs, the Heat discovered a formula that worked very well. They moved Chris Bosh to center to fill a longtime void. They played LeBron James heavily at power forward and played Shane Battier there as well. James’ numbers playing what essentially was a new position in the league -- point power forward -- saw him average 30 points and nearly 10 rebounds a game in the postseason. The Heat also proved that using the combo of Mario Chalmers and Norris Cole at point guard was effective. Overall, it was a jackpot. 

    Going forward, the Heat may look to add to their wing position to make it easier to have James play more minutes at one of big man spots. There are some veteran point guards like Nash, Miller or even Jason Kidd out there, but the Heat likely have more of a need for a shooter. Adding Nash, for example, would create incredible star power but also would require the Heat to potentially revamp their offense and lineups that they’ve spent two years figuring out. 

    Enter Ray Allen 
    This is why Allen could be a nice fit. 

    Allen had surgery almost three weeks ago to remove bone spurs in his ankle. It’s not clear what his recovery timeline is, but Allen said -- within earshot of the Heat’s locker room at the end of the conference finals -- that he was planning to continue his career. 

    According to multiple league sources, there is mutual interest between Allen and the Heat. The most the Heat can offer is a contract starting at $3 million per year, which is known as the taxpayer’s midlevel. Allen could get more money elsewhere, but the Heat offer an attractive portfolio that goes deeper than cash. 

    But before you consider how Allen might look in a Heat uniform, take a moment to get a more well-rounded view of the situation. 

    A big issue is just how much money is the team is willing to send to its competitors in luxury-tax payouts to add Allen or any other free agent. It is a championship team as is, and its payroll is ballooning even without adding players. 

    The Heat are one of the teams that will test the mechanics of the new collective bargaining agreement, which places a heavy burden on the big spenders in an effort to control competitive balance. This season the Heat will write a check for about $7 million in luxury tax. They are in position to have the third-highest payroll in the league next year at nearly $80 million, and that’s before signing a free agent. That will cost them $10 million in tax in 2013, and they will have to pay millions more in revenue sharing that also will go to their rivals, including the Oklahoma City Thunder. In the '13-14 season, when the new enhanced tax takes effect and the Heat already have in excess of $80 million committed, they are looking at a potential luxury-tax bill between $15-20 million. And just to repeat: That’s without signing any free agents this summer or next summer. 

    As Heat owner Micky Arison said in December, “We can keep the Big Three together, but they have made it expensive. ... It was a bad financial deal for us.” 

    Good news/bad news 
    Basically, the Heat are in a good news/bad news situation. The good news is they have James, Dwyane Wade and Bosh under contract for two more seasons (all three can be free agents in '14 or ’15 or ’16), and there was no hard cap installed that will force Miami to break up the highly paid stars. This has now been proved as a championship core, and there’s no reason not to keep it together. 

    The bad news is those three earn so much money, a combined $52 million next year and $56 million in two seasons when the new tax kicks in, that it makes adding onto the roster penal. Especially when Arison is also writing checks to contribute to the revenue-sharing pool. This is why he was one of the owners who voted “no” on the new CBA. 

    Arison is one of the league’s wealthiest owners and recently was estimated at being worth more than $4 billion. The Heat are in the process of negotiating a new local cable deal, and Forbes reported last week that this deal could be worth more than $80 million a year. The Heat quickly denied an agreement was done. That said, just assuming Arison is going to continue to spend freely because of his personal wealth isn’t a guarantee. 

    “That's the way fans feel, that's the way players feel, that's the way coaches feel,” Arison said before this season about operating in the red just because he can afford it. “The only one that feels different is people who run a business, who expect to get a return on their investment." 

    Arison was one of the owners who pushed to create a luxury tax in the first place and has a reputation for being a fiscally responsible owner. He cut his coaches’ salaries by 20 percent during the recession, for example. Last summer he cut his staff’s salaries during the lockout even though the Heat were coming off a profitable year and had all the season-ticket money for this season in their coffers. 

    Is he willing to sign a player like Allen if it could cost him potentially triple the money in 2013-14 when he already has a championship team? 

    Mike Miller's replacement? 
    Some of it may determine what happens with Mike Miller, who has three bulging discs in his lower back in addition to some other issues. He’s said he will see doctors and make some decisions in the next couple of weeks. Miller might need two surgeries, one on his back and perhaps one to his foot, this summer. That would bring the number of surgeries he’s had with the Heat to six since 2010. 

    The Heat have several options with Miller. They could:
    • Let him have the surgeries and rehab. He’s a useful player; he just scored 23 points in the Finals close-out game despite those injuries. It's hard to say he can’t play anymore after watching his shooting display.
    • Use their amnesty option for the three years and $18.6 million left on his contract. Miller has privately prepared for this for months. Arison still would have to write the checks, but Miller would be removed from the payroll and the team would save millions in luxury taxes and potentially carve out room for a new player. If Miller departs in this manner, Allen would be an excellent replacement.
    • Work out a buyout of the rest of Miller's contract that would limit the Heat’s spending and tax liability. He hinted at this possibility by saying, “I couldn't picture a better point to go out on top like this as a champion. But we'll see. We'll visit the doctors and see what parts work and don't, and go from there.”
    • Request a disabled player exception if the surgeries might keep Miller out an extended period. They could get a $2.9 million coupon to sign a free agent for next season. However, this would add to their tax and payroll issues.
    • Get Miller declared permanently disabled and have his contract removed from their books if league doctors agree. But they couldn’t do it until a year after he’s played his last game. That could help the Heat financially in the long term but not short term.


    Regardless of what happens, the Heat are in a strong position heading into next season. There may be other veterans near the end of their careers such as Jermaine O’Neal and Grant Hill who also will look to join the team because of their contender status. 

    They’re not going anywhere for a while. 

  •  06-26-2012, 10:32 上午 427317 in reply to 427315

    Re: Ray allen傳出跟熱火有互相合作的共識(附連結)

    冠軍賽後老將西瓜偎大邊的第一炮? 


  •  06-26-2012, 10:34 上午 427319 in reply to 427317

    Re: Ray allen傳出跟熱火有互相合作的共識(附連結)

    henrydu0:

    冠軍賽後老將西瓜偎大邊的第一炮? 

    他若真的來到代表Miller應該就不留了吧 

  •  06-26-2012, 10:38 上午 427320 in reply to 427315

    Re: Ray allen傳出跟熱火有互相合作的共識(附連結)

    感覺不太對,原句是there is mutual interest between Allen and the Heat...應該是互相有興趣,熱火有想簽Allen,Allen也不排除去熱火的意思,但重點是熱火簽FA總共只能用300萬--謠言熱火想要用這300萬簽的名單有半打,比如Nash跟Kaman

    另外別隊能開給Allen比300萬大多少的合約才是這篇討論的重點,而不是看到there is mutual interest between Allen and the Heat就立標題"有互相合作的共識"
  •  06-26-2012, 10:48 上午 427321 in reply to 427320

    Re: Ray allen傳出跟熱火有互相合作的共識(附連結)

    Red Jazz:
    感覺不太對,原句是there is mutual interest between Allen and the Heat...應該是互相有興趣,熱火有想簽Allen,Allen也不排除去熱火的意思,但重點是熱火簽FA總共只能用300萬--謠言熱火想要用這300萬簽的名單有半打,比如Nash跟Kaman

    另外別隊能開給Allen比300萬大多少的合約才是這篇討論的重點,而不是看到there is mutual interest between Allen and the Heat就立標題"有互相合作的共識"

     

    爵士大跟各位看官先說聲抱歉Crying

    我對於句子的理解是"有可能合作"所以才下"有互相合作的共識"我對於這個標題也是疑問句來出發

    翻譯造成口述上問題深感抱歉

  •  06-26-2012, 12:15 下午 427333 in reply to 427321

    Re: Ray allen傳出跟熱火有互相合作的共識(附連結)

    如果來熱火...我就爽翻天了

    ALLEN、LBJ兩個我最愛的球星...

    來吧來吧~


    三分球決定一切
  •  06-26-2012, 12:46 下午 427337 in reply to 427311

    Re: Ray allen傳出跟熱火有互相合作的共識(附連結)

    天阿,熱火別走這步棋阿,Ray很棒,但是熱火不需要他,

    把薪資空間補禁區高度吧,以LBJ 的能力半場陣地戰是玩得起的,

    魔獸的動態未明,最好先假設他會去籃網,把籃網當頭號假想敵。

  •  06-26-2012, 1:33 下午 427344 in reply to 427337

    Re: Ray allen傳出跟熱火有互相合作的共識(附連結)

     

    BATTIER + MILLER 其實只有準總冠軍戰耶...

    平常的熱火外線真的很爛...如果健康的RAY是蠻不錯的!!!

  •  06-26-2012, 1:49 下午 427346 in reply to 427337

    Re: Ray allen傳出跟熱火有互相合作的共識(附連結)

    carter180:

    天阿,熱火別走這步棋阿,Ray很棒,但是熱火不需要他,

    把薪資空間補禁區高度吧,以LBJ 的能力半場陣地戰是玩得起的,

    魔獸的動態未明,最好先假設他會去籃網,把籃網當頭號假想敵。

     

    大大說的有些許道理,Ray 晚期的打法都是以陣地戰做為戰術來投射三分球,或是擋人掩護後傳給弱邊的球員做攻擊

    這跟現在熱火打法好像又有那麼一點不搭,半場陣地戰有三分投射機會幾乎都是包夾兩位生化人所產生出來的

    我印象中熱火教練團並有出現像"深切(deep cut).捲曲切(curl cut)"等戰術

    這對晚期熟悉BOS半場成熟戰術的Ray會有一點影響

    上面也有大大提到,如果Ray 沒有Rondo沒有好的戰術配合,是不是能達到好的進攻效率?

     

    不過說真的

    這種等級的射手加上那麼多風光偉業

    到哪一隊應該都是適合的Idea

  •  06-26-2012, 1:59 下午 427348 in reply to 427337

    Re: Ray allen傳出跟熱火有互相合作的共識(附連結)

    carter180:

    天阿,熱火別走這步棋阿,Ray很棒,但是熱火不需要他,

    把薪資空間補禁區高度吧,以LBJ 的能力半場陣地戰是玩得起的,

    魔獸的動態未明,最好先假設他會去籃網,把籃網當頭號假想敵。

    其實我也有同感 但MM如果退休加上Wade受傷 之後會很難說 但Ray自己也有傷就是了

    不過MM真走了 除了Battier外 單單靠James Jones以及Cole是有點冒險

    其實我想Ray Gun也不缺錢了 沒準油頭真的能說動底薪加盟

    但也同樣的 我還是補上幾個類似當年PJ Brown的人先 就算被而不用 也是保險

     

    話說當年騎士對上魔術的時候  是用過Lebron守Howardㄚ 阿阿阿!!! 


  •  06-26-2012, 3:34 下午 427361 in reply to 427348

    Re: Ray allen傳出跟熱火有互相合作的共識(附連結)

    henrydu0:
    carter180:

    天阿,熱火別走這步棋阿,Ray很棒,但是熱火不需要他,

    把薪資空間補禁區高度吧,以LBJ 的能力半場陣地戰是玩得起的,

    魔獸的動態未明,最好先假設他會去籃網,把籃網當頭號假想敵。

    其實我也有同感 但MM如果退休加上Wade受傷 之後會很難說 但Ray自己也有傷就是了

    不過MM真走了 除了Battier外 單單靠James Jones以及Cole是有點冒險

    其實我想Ray Gun也不缺錢了 沒準油頭真的能說動底薪加盟

    但也同樣的 我還是補上幾個類似當年PJ Brown的人先 就算被而不用 也是保險

     

    話說當年騎士對上魔術的時候  是用過Lebron守Howardㄚ 阿阿阿!!! 

    不看好熱火拿下Ray gun.

    事實上Ray gun是缺錢的,而且他也不缺總冠軍了.

    他的小孩患有先天性糖尿病,醫療費嚇死人的. 

     

    至於禁區高度,雖然很希望有所補強,但又不希望補進速度跟不上的內線.

    到底有哪些適合熱火,同時以現在的薪資狀況有可能拿下的禁區球員呢? 

  •  06-26-2012, 3:39 下午 427363 in reply to 427361

    Re: Ray allen傳出跟熱火有互相合作的共識(附連結)

    hsing0218:
    henrydu0:
    carter180:

    天阿,熱火別走這步棋阿,Ray很棒,但是熱火不需要他,

    把薪資空間補禁區高度吧,以LBJ 的能力半場陣地戰是玩得起的,

    魔獸的動態未明,最好先假設他會去籃網,把籃網當頭號假想敵。

    其實我也有同感 但MM如果退休加上Wade受傷 之後會很難說 但Ray自己也有傷就是了

    不過MM真走了 除了Battier外 單單靠James Jones以及Cole是有點冒險

    其實我想Ray Gun也不缺錢了 沒準油頭真的能說動底薪加盟

    但也同樣的 我還是補上幾個類似當年PJ Brown的人先 就算被而不用 也是保險

     

    話說當年騎士對上魔術的時候  是用過Lebron守Howardㄚ 阿阿阿!!! 

    不看好熱火拿下Ray gun.

    事實上Ray gun是缺錢的,而且他也不缺總冠軍了.

    他的小孩患有先天性糖尿病,醫療費嚇死人的. 

     

    至於禁區高度,雖然很希望有所補強,但又不希望補進速度跟不上的內線.

    到底有哪些適合熱火,同時以現在的薪資狀況有可能拿下的禁區球員呢? 

    到目前為止

    Ray生涯薪資到達178million, 一億七千八百萬美金 大約54億台幣

     

    我不知道他是不是跟原始養家人Sprewell一樣的方法養家 但我滿確定他不缺錢 

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