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球員交易: Odom 交易至 Mavs, 換選秀權

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  •  12-11-2011, 10:33 下午 405900

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    球員交易: Odom 交易至 Mavs, 換選秀權

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/sam_amick/12/11/lakers.odom/index.html?sct=nba_t11_a1

    Lakers pull out of Paul deal, trade Odom to Mavericks instead

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    The Lakers pulled out of a three-way trade that would've netted them Chris Paul

    L.A. instead traded forward Lamar Odom into the Mavericks' trade exception

    A source involved in the talks said the Hornets' asking price was too high

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    Reigning Sixth Man of the Year Lamar Odom was sent to Dallas using the trade exception from Tyson Chandler's deal.
    Reigning Sixth Man of the Year Lamar Odom was sent to Dallas using the trade exception from Tyson Chandler's deal.
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    The three-way trade that would have sent New Orleans point guard Chris Paul to the Lakers died for the second time on Saturday night, sources confirmed to SI.com.

    The deal, which was vetoed by NBA commissioner and de facto Hornets owner David Stern on Thursday night for what the NBA deemed "basketball reasons," would have sent Lakers forward Pau Gasol to Houston and the Rockets' Kevin Martin and Luis Scola to New Orleans.

    But after the parties spent the last two days attempting to satisfy the league's new marching orders -- that the Hornets acquire some combination of younger talent or more draft picks -- sources said the deal fell apart when the Lakers pulled out.

    "The [new] price was too high," said one source involved in the talks.

    The Lakers wasted no time in switching gears, as sources confirmed an ESPN.com report that forward Lamar Odom is expected to be traded to Dallas. He would be placed into the Mavericks' trade exception that was acquired as part of their three-team trade with New York and Washington that sent center Tyson Chandler to the Knicks.

    The Odom trade was met with much surprise around the league, with sources marveling at what appeared to be a salary dump (Odom will earn $8.9 million this season and has a partially guaranteed $8.2 million next season, with a $2 million buyout). The fact that the two-time NBA champion and reigning Sixth Man of the Year was gift-wrapped to a team that embarrassed the Lakers the Western Conference semifinals last June made it all the more unexpected.

    According to the Los Angeles Times, the Lakers will receive a 2012 first-round pick from Dallas and possibly a second-round pick, plus an $8.9 million trade exception in the deal. It's an astonishingly low price that Dallas will pay for Odom, and the latest indication that the times and priorities may be changing in L.A. With Lakers executive Jim Buss, the son of owner Jerry Buss, heading the operation these days, the Odom trade will do little to change the opinion of those who believe they Lakers are "in cost-cutting mode," as one source close to the situation said. "I think the Buss' kids are now running the team, for the most part, and they're trying to make as much money as they can," the source said. "Everything is changing there."

    The next few days will reveal the team's plan, and there is little doubt the Lakers will make a push for Dwight Howard now. They won't be alone, as his agent, Dan Fegan, was given permission to explore trades with the Nets, Mavs and Lakers this week. Howard requested a trade this week, and a source close to the situation confirmed to SI.com that he asked to be dealt to the Nets.

    The pursuit of Paul, meanwhile, will continue elsewhere. The Clippers and Warriors are likely to re-engage with the Hornets, although the NBA's messy methods in handling the Hornets are clearly a concern for any team with which they deal. It's unclear whether the Celtics can get back in the race, especially considering one of the principle pieces of their previous proposals -- restricted free agent forward Jeff Green -- signed a one-year deal with Boston on Saturday and can not be traded for six months.

    While sources said a revised version of the vetoed Paul deal was submitted to the league office early Saturday, the situation remained fluid hours later when possible changes were still being discussed. A possible sign-and-trade sending free agent center Jason Smith from the Hornets to the Lakers is among those potential changes, though one source said that component had not been agreed upon as of 8 p.m. ET on Saturday. According to Yahoo! Sports, a sign-and-trade sending free agent guard Marcus Banks from the Hornets to the Lakers was also being considered.

    Sources told SI.com earlier Saturday that the possible deal was "mostly the same" as before, when Odom, Martin, Scola, guard Goran Dragic and a first-round draft pick from Houston were headed to the Hornets. Gasol was set to join the Rockets and L.A. would receive Paul.

    Hornets general manager Dell Demps, according to sources, had been told by the league to focus on acquiring either younger players (Martin is 29, Scola is 31, and Odom is 32) or more draft picks in order to help the Hornets build for the future.

    According to a source, Martin was told not to come to Rockets practice on Saturday. The Houston Chronicle reported that Scola was not practicing as well, while Dragic was already out with a sprained ankle.

    "Since the NBA purchased the New Orleans Hornets, final responsibility for significant management decisions lies with the Commissioner's Office in consultation with team chairman Jac Sperling," Stern said in a statement on Friday to explain why the league nixed the trade. "All decisions are made on the basis of what is in the best interests of the Hornets. In the case of the trade proposal that was made to the Hornets for Chris Paul, we decided, free from the influence of other NBA owners, that the team was better served with Chris in a Hornets uniform than by the outcome of the terms of that trade."

    While Stern insisted that the deal's first death wasn't a result of pressure applied by rival owners, Yahoo! Sports and the New York Times obtained a letter from Cavaliers owner Dan Gilbert that seemed to imply otherwise. Gilbert called the deal a "travesty" and argued that the Lakers' economic benefits in the deal -- in addition to acquiring Paul -- were far too great for the league to approve.

    "Over the next three seasons, this deal would save the Lakers approximately $20 million in salaries and approximately $21 million in luxury taxes," Gilbert wrote. "That $21 million goes to non-taxpaying teams and to fund revenue sharing."

    In the absence of a three-team deal with Houston and the Lakers, New Orleans needed to reassess the league-wide market for Paul as well. Sources said that process began Thursday night, when Hornets general manager Dell Demps -- who reportedly considered quitting as a result of this fiasco -- picked up the phone again in attempt to find a deal that might be to the NBA's liking.

    "Since that deal did not go through, we're going to keep plugging away and see if we can get a deal for the team," Demps told reporters on Friday. "We're talking about everything. Everything is on the table."

    Demps said he was given autonomy by the league to make another trade for Paul, who showed up to the Hornets' first day of training camp Friday just hours after the first proposal was nixed.

    "We offered Chris a contract extension and Chris said that he's not ready to sign an extension at this time," Demps said. "We always knew that there was a possibility that this day would happen. ... It would be real easy if Chris signed the extension but the reality is he didn't sign the extension, so we have to do everything we can for the organization. I wish he'd stay. I'm not going to lie about it."

  •  12-11-2011, 11:14 下午 405904 in reply to 405900

    Re: 球員交易: Odom 交易至 Mavs, 換選秀權

    Odom這位近年來我很欣賞的3.4號搖擺全能前鋒

    幫助湖人隊2連霸的重要功臣 

    先是在與湖人續約時價碼談的不是多愉快

    現在又被捨棄

    接下來看看禁區兩大主力Gasol.Bynum會怎麼樣

    湖人隊給我死抱Kobe大腿(Kobe剛好也喜好被抱腿)把其它球員過河拆橋的觀感

    這樣好

    湖人隊離冠軍不會比較近.Kobe揀到的冠軍戒就會停在5個.也已經揀的夠多了

  •  12-11-2011, 11:23 下午 405906 in reply to 405904

    Re: 球員交易: Odom 交易至 Mavs, 換選秀權

    KOBE合約裡有拒絕交易條款

    所以沒辦法動他,除非他自己主動要走

  •  12-11-2011, 11:25 下午 405907 in reply to 405904

    Re: 球員交易: Odom 交易至 Mavs, 換選秀權

    deviaton:

    Odom這位近年來我很欣賞的3.4號搖擺全能前鋒

    幫助湖人隊2連霸的重要功臣 

    先是在與湖人續約時價碼談的不是多愉快

    現在又被捨棄

    接下來看看禁區兩大主力Gasol.Bynum會怎麼樣

    湖人隊給我死抱Kobe大腿(Kobe剛好也喜好被抱腿)把其它球員過河拆橋的觀感

    這樣好

    湖人隊離冠軍不會比較近.Kobe揀到的冠軍戒就會停在5個.也已經揀的夠多了

     就事論事
    你有必要講話講這麼難聽嗎??

  •  12-11-2011, 11:40 下午 405912 in reply to 405906

    Re: 球員交易: Odom 交易至 Mavs, 換選秀權

    換還換給死對頭

    看來湖人要重返西區冠軍的路又更遠了

  •  12-11-2011, 11:55 下午 405913 in reply to 405907

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    Re: 球員交易: Odom 交易至 Mavs, 換選秀權

    我搞不懂这手腕(就像塞队要大卫西一样)

    明明缺中锋

    找前锋个干嘛?

    虽说odom世锦赛客串中锋打的也不错

    但能强到让lbj&wade不敢冲篮下吗?


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  •  12-12-2011, 12:13 上午 405916 in reply to 405907

    Re: 球員交易: Odom 交易至 Mavs, 換選秀權

    murphy:

     就事論事
    你有必要講話講這麼難聽嗎??


    我已經在學習忽略一些沒意義的言論
    沒人去鳥他 哭鬧一陣子自己覺得無趣就會停止了
    去跟他吵得不到什麼的 就讓他自言自語吧...
  •  12-12-2011, 12:49 上午 405920 in reply to 405916

    Re: 球員交易: Odom 交易至 Mavs, 換選秀權

    小牛獲得Odom雖然不能確切補上Chandler的空缺

    Odom能從三號打到五號  打球又敬業

    速度可以跟上小牛的進攻節奏  籃板能力其實也是優質水準

    上季拿下最佳第六人也證明自己在板凳上也能有所貢獻

    至少能幫Dirk等人紓解很大的上場時間

    中鋒位置上也還有上季主要替補出擊的Haywood可以補上

    再輔以Turiaf  Cardinal為首的敢死部隊

    其實已經把Chandler離隊的傷害減到很低

     

    反觀湖人隊 Odom有這麼賤價嗎?

    至少可以換兩三個球員回來吧

    稍微看了一下文章是Buss想省錢的意思嗎???

  •  12-12-2011, 1:20 上午 405927 in reply to 405920

    Re: 球員交易: Odom 交易至 Mavs, 換選秀權


    我一直很欣賞Odom在關鍵時刻的重要表現,
    但湖人果然還是出重手賣掉冠軍隊陣容的球員,
    接下來湖人肯定還會有其他補強或球員交易的大動作,
    這就像打牌一樣,當你把一張手上還不錯的牌丟出去,
    就是要換一張或更多張你覺得有贏面的牌回來,
    因為你丟出去之後,等於拆掉,等於要重新來過。

    湖人這樣做有二個意思,
    一是趁縮水球季炒短線,
    透過交易把有奪冠實力的球員吸收過來,
    但或許都只類似一年簽的短約,
    球員只有短暫功能性任務而已,
    目的是今年能奪冠。

    第二種,就是球隊提早進入重建,
    把手上球員逐一洗牌,
    得到未來選秀權或比較年輕有實力的球員簽長約,
    目的當然是放眼未來,
    至於是否能讓所有球員融入和順利運轉,
    然後今年要奪冠,也許就不太一定了,
    因為就外在因素來說,
    今年NBA球季不僅縮水,球隊準備時間也很匆忙,
    不確定的風險會比較高;
    那以內在因素來說,湖人剛換新的總教練,
    執教方式跟過去有別,
    觀念、戰術、訓練、甚至危機處理,
    這些球員短時間內就必須要重新摸索和適應。


    當然啦,
    把上述分析都混在一起,
    二種願望一次滿足,這也不無可能,
    不過以今年球季的狀況來說,要達到的難度可不低,
    就看湖人球團高層接下來會怎麼做了。


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  •  12-12-2011, 1:48 上午 405931 in reply to 405920

    Re: 球員交易: Odom 交易至 Mavs, 換選秀權

    mrbean:


    再輔以Turiaf  Cardinal為首的敢死部隊

    其實已經把Chandler離隊的傷害減到很低

     

     

    Turiaf是去巫師吧? 

     

    明年odom的合約是team option,就算作用不如預期也會是不錯的交易籌碼。

    小牛今年非常理智,沒有長約留下Chandler,甚至其他球員也不給複數年合約,目標就是明年(當然今年更好,但是大TE已經用掉大半)爭取CP3 or DW or DWill加盟。

    很少看到一支冠軍球隊留住完整班底的意願這麼低,可見小牛對球隊的年齡結構真的很沒信心。 

    不過,目前為止,我覺得小牛的決定是正確的,4年5600萬簽Chandler太冒險了,但是小牛也沒讓他白走,輾轉換了個odom回來。 

  •  12-12-2011, 2:37 上午 405935 in reply to 405900

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    Re: 球員交易: Odom 交易至 Mavs, 換選秀權

    剛好Turiaf也被尼克釋出了

    非常希望湖人找他回來XD 但機會應該很渺茫><


    正妹的外表,不是她們努力得來的,你不需要對她們的外形有過度的崇拜。多想著你有的,不要想著你沒有的,這樣你就不會覺得自己矮了她們一節。
  •  12-12-2011, 3:07 上午 405938 in reply to 405935

    Re: 球員交易: Odom 交易至 Mavs, 換選秀權

    urt56:

    剛好Turiaf也被尼克釋出了

    非常希望湖人找他回來XD 但機會應該很渺茫><

    Rony Turiaf在小牛、尼克和巫師的三方交易中,被送到了巫師隊了。


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  •  12-12-2011, 3:34 上午 405946 in reply to 405938

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    Re: 球員交易: Odom 交易至 Mavs, 換選秀權

    Legend_R:
    urt56:

    剛好Turiaf也被尼克釋出了

    非常希望湖人找他回來XD 但機會應該很渺茫><

    Rony Turiaf在小牛、尼克和巫師的三方交易中,被送到了巫師隊了。

    幻想馬上破滅XD


    正妹的外表,不是她們努力得來的,你不需要對她們的外形有過度的崇拜。多想著你有的,不要想著你沒有的,這樣你就不會覺得自己矮了她們一節。
  •  12-12-2011, 9:22 上午 405972 in reply to 405912

    Re: 球員交易: Odom 交易至 Mavs, 換選秀權

    Mitch此舉, 某種程度暗示了湖人交易不來CP3或是DH12了

    除非湖人真的傻到用剩下雙塔去換DH... 那陣容的洞也大..

    Odom好用也好賣, 賣去換選秀權回來, 意義不大

    從這十年來看, Mitch毫無選秀眼光, 選秀權也只是淪為交易籌碼.

    Odom在拿低薪續約後, 在LA是一片讚賞, 人氣直線飆高,

    Mitch賣掉Odom, 最好能提出交易實績, 不然犯眾怒的機會也不小

    釜也破了, 舟也沉了, 說好的新湖人呢?

  •  12-12-2011, 9:47 上午 405980 in reply to 405972

    Re: 球員交易: Odom 交易至 Mavs, 換選秀權

    Jamal Crawford不考慮長約

    也可以把他弄來組成個史上最強第六人部隊也不錯

    雖說Odom的到來是沒辦法真正替小牛紓解內線肉柱的輪替

    但把當今最不三不四的DIrk+Marion+Odom同時擺在場上

    其互補性也是讓人挺有遐想的

    考量到小牛以往都最少有三個純中鋒可以輪替的情況下

    再加上黑霧多傷病

    勢必還得多弄1到2個肉柱進來才行 (例如:老鷹的Zaza PachuliaEtan Thomas<巫師當時跟黑霧的瑜亮內線> )

    Cuban每年都有不少花樣,真不得不說今年更是作的不錯

    樂觀其成~

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