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[交易]Boston 多重交易: Perkins, N.Robinson, Daniels, Erden, Harangody(out) / J.Green, Kristic(in)

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  •  02-27-2011, 3:02 下午 367341 in reply to 367336

    Re: [交易]Boston 多重交易: Perkins, N.Robinson, Daniels, Erden, Harangody(out) / J.Green, Kristic(in)

    Chanjieyun:

    請問大大,

    為什麼Dalembert會被買斷,

    是哪一隊,為什麼不留用呢?

    熱火隊除了Murphy,還有別的中鋒可以競標,

    只可惜,三月份簽約的不能打季後賽了。

    三月一號前買斷合約的球員都有資格,所以這兩天是最後期限

    想換個環境撈戒指的都必須在三月一號前搞定買斷事宜

    三月後到確定季後賽名單之前簽約應該都可以打季後賽


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  •  02-27-2011, 3:56 下午 367344 in reply to 367341

    Re: [交易]Boston 多重交易: Perkins, N.Robinson, Daniels, Erden, Harangody(out) / J.Green, Kristic(in)

    sys6869:

    三月一號前買斷合約的球員都有資格,所以這兩天是最後期限

    想換個環境撈戒指的都必須在三月一號前搞定買斷事宜

    三月後到確定季後賽名單之前簽約應該都可以打季後賽

    感謝大大的答覆。

    另外請問,為什麼國王隊可能會買斷Dalembert的合約呢?

    為了節省豪華稅,或者超過十五人名單了嗎?


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  •  02-27-2011, 3:57 下午 367345 in reply to 367344

    Re: [交易]Boston 多重交易: Perkins, N.Robinson, Daniels, Erden, Harangody(out) / J.Green, Kristic(in)

    我要問各位有比較了解的

    NBA有球隊在季中把重要先發球員交易掉

    然後拿到冠軍的嗎


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  •  02-27-2011, 5:59 下午 367356 in reply to 367345

    Re: [交易]Boston 多重交易: Perkins, N.Robinson, Daniels, Erden, Harangody(out) / J.Green, Kristic(in)

    ogudifogudif:

    我要問各位有比較了解的

    NBA有球隊在季中把重要先發球員交易掉

    然後拿到冠軍的嗎

     1994-95年球季火箭隊把Otis Thrope換成Clyde Drexler算不算?

     

  •  02-27-2011, 6:07 下午 367357 in reply to 367356

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    Re: [交易]Boston 多重交易: Perkins, N.Robinson, Daniels, Erden, Harangody(out) / J.Green, Kristic(in)

    chinshen:
    ogudifogudif:

    我要問各位有比較了解的

    NBA有球隊在季中把重要先發球員交易掉

    然後拿到冠軍的嗎

     1994-95年球季火箭隊把Otis Thrope換成Clyde Drexler算不算?

     

    我想應該算吧.....

    球隊第二得分手(V.Maxwell)和第二籃板手(O.Thorpe)也不能說不重要啊


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  •  02-27-2011, 6:10 下午 367358 in reply to 367255

    Re: [交易]Boston 多重交易: Perkins, N.Robinson, Daniels, Erden, Harangody(out) / J.Green, Kristic(in)

    再對 Thunder 這次的交易作個補充:

    http://blog.shamsports.com/2011/02/tax-payers-trade-kickers-and-other.html#more

    原文很長, 但是值得一讀, 我只摘錄涉及 Thunder 的部份

    Finally, Oklahoma City's two trades carry more than on-court ramifications.

    Not only did they bring in talented centres and a good backup guard for expendable pieces; they also opened up some financial flexibility. After restructuring Nick Collison's contract earlier in the season, the Thunder found themselves right at the salary cap line, below it by mere pittance. Their two deals, though, have seen them open up $2,056,512 in cap room that they did not previously have.

    This is significant for one simple reason.

    Earlier in the season, Boston offered Kenny Perkins a contract extension, which he declined. Perkins said no because the extension that the Celtics offered, whilst the maximum they were allowed to offer under CBA extension rules, was probably lower than what Perkins could corral in the summertime on the open market. But by creating this small amount of cap room, OKC can now offer him a bigger extension than Boston could.

    NBA contracts are only renegotiable if

    a) they're going upwards, and
    b) the team has cap room.

    Because teams so rarely have cap room, and because it rarely behooves teams to pay their already-under-contract players more money, it almost never happens. Indeed, before this season, I could not name you a single occurrence of it happening; it probably has at some point, yet that's a testament to how rare it is.

    However, in this modern, sabermetric, MIT-laden internet-era NBA, executives are far more cap creative than they used to be. Therefore, this barely-used strategy has been used twice far already this season. Washington used their leftover cap room to increase Andray Blatche's salary, almost doubling his pay over the final two seasons of his contract and simultaneously tacking on a three year extension. Rather than chancing losing him on the 2012 open market, the team tied him in for five years for a total of $35,730,997, tying down a productive young player for a significant period of time. The Thunder themselves later one-upped this move with a $17.55 million extension for Collison that deliberately, humorously and yet craftily made him the fourth highest paid centre in the world ($13,670,000), behind only Amare Stoudemire ($16,486,611), Dwight Howard ($16,647,180) and Yao Ming ($17,686,100).

    By simultaneously acquiring cap space with the underpaid Kenny Perk, OKC can now do a Baltche with him. OKC can use their cap space to renegotiate Perkins's current $4,640,208 salary up to as much $6,696,720. From there, they can concurrently offer a new four year extension totalling a a maximum of $33,818,436, or any number below that that they feel happier with.

    Add in the extra negotiated salary, and that's over $35 million for four years that OKC can theoretically offer him, as-near-as-is $9 million per. In contrast, Boston could only offer circa $6 million per. It's a significant difference.

    If Perkins thinks he can get that much on the open market, he's wrong. He's not even worth that much, especially with his current injury concerns. Yet if OKC anticipates his return to full health, and wants to tie in the defensive centrepiece that they have thus far lacked during the entire Kevin Durant era without running the risk of him hitting the open market, they can do so right now.

    But they'll also have to do so right now.

    Because there's a problem.

    They only have until March 1st to do it.

    So they'd better impress him quickly.

    可以看出, 這次交易是典型 Presti 的手法, 因此我相信接下來在 3 月 1 日, 他應該就會和 Perkins 續約, 用多年把對奪冠而言可能最重要的一片拼圖綁住, 想要等暑假簽他的球隊 (Ex: 熱火) 可能會失望了  



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  •  02-27-2011, 10:22 下午 367395 in reply to 367358

    Re: [交易]Boston 多重交易: Perkins, N.Robinson, Daniels, Erden, Harangody(out) / J.Green, Kristic(in)

    祝福Perkins在雷霆有好的發展~!

  •  02-28-2011, 2:56 上午 367446 in reply to 367395

    Re: [交易]Boston 多重交易: Perkins, N.Robinson, Daniels, Erden, Harangody(out) / J.Green, Kristic(in)

    Marquis Daniels waives no-trade clause
    Marquis Daniels waived his no trade clause and the Kings waived a physical making the trade to Sacramento official.It's unclear as of yet what the Kings intend to do with Daniels. At this point he's probably more concerned with getting healthy. Feb 24, 6:35 PMSource: David Aldridge on Twitter

    如果塞隊日後再用底薪把 Daniels 撿回來
    等於這筆交易塞隊是拿現金去買國王的2017第二輪的選秀權
    又調整Daniels的薪資 降低全隊薪資
    但是只有差幾十萬 要搞那麼複雜
    是我想的這各原因嗎
    NBA GM想的比我們一般球迷考慮的因素複雜多了

  •  02-28-2011, 3:18 上午 367450 in reply to 367395

    Re: [交易]Boston 多重交易: Perkins, N.Robinson, Daniels, Erden, Harangody(out) / J.Green, Kristic(in)

    雖然捨不得PERKINS,但是只能相信AINGE的交易!

    我還是相信這個交易對塞隊還是有幫助的!

     

    看了一下對快艇的HIGHLIGHT,感覺Kristic沒有那麼軟!

    或許快艇的禁區威力不算太強悍,但我感覺Kristic還不差!

    此人肯拼肯搶還有中距離,投射能力是比Perkins優!

    當然Perkins禁區防守能力跟強悍度就不是Kristic可以取代的!

     

    我蠻期待Jeff Green的!他會表現越來越好!我相信!

     

    話說回來,好像Perkins受傷會缺席個兩到三週左右!除了續約問題外,難道這才是Ainge做交易的主因?

    http://www.celticslife.com/2011/02/perkins-thunder-debut-delayed-2-3-weeks.html

  •  02-28-2011, 5:13 上午 367457 in reply to 367450

    Re: [交易]Boston 多重交易: Perkins, N.Robinson, Daniels, Erden, Harangody(out) / J.Green, Kristic(in)

    個人猜測波士頓 安及總管交易的原因

    1.Perkins受傷缺席還能保持目前東區第一 造成的迷失盲點
    Perkins拒絕簽下4年2200萬美元的「延長合約」,而是要價4年3000萬美元

    2.
    明星賽前討論最多塞隊需要補強的就是Pierce的替補 第六人 防守大鎖
    眼看其他東區列強 公牛季前持續補強搞來布瑟 魔術也補強大搬風 熱火的三王合體 尼克 搞來安東尼+大史
    加上一連串的意外

    明星賽前倒數第五場 魔術之戰 Perkins先發32分鐘11籃板0分 且傷了Pierce的替補Daniels

    明星賽前倒數第二場 雖險勝熱火 但Pierce出賽40分鐘 10投0中 只有靠罰球拿下1分(雖然James只拿下普通的22分7板7助,但一想到萬一東區決賽 Pierce要守James整場還要打七場 那還得了 這下不找替補不行)

    明星賽前倒數第一場 Perkins出賽12分鐘又受傷了而且是剛剛傷好的重要左膝

    安吉忍不住了 奪冠之路太危險了 今年沒拿冠軍恐怕會沒工作了 決定交易大限 再做交易 目標補強3 4號重要替補戰力
    加上安吉的個性擔任經理以來就愛交易 而且偏好下大注 儘管我認為他夠聰明但風險實在太高了

    3
    東區列強 傳統死對頭 幾乎都儘量不願意跟賽隊交易
    只能從放棄下半計明年重整的隊伍 以及西區開始打電話給GM談交易
    在擁有三巨頭下陣容可提供交易的菜色
    Erden Robinson Bradley Wafer Harangody 應該有機會換到稱職替補3號吧
    只是沒想到 波士頓強隊 樹大招風 找不到適合的交易 不是要被敲竹槓 就是不願意犧牲太多
    或者考慮太多導致想補的人選都被搶走 氣到最後賭大一點拿出Perkins去換

    4.總經理:安吉(前塞隊王朝後衛白人射手,2008最佳經理,2004至今)
    總教練:瑞佛斯(前老鷹隊明星後衛)
    塞隊隊型:以Garnett為中心團隊防守 以Pierce為中心著重半場傳統戰術團隊進攻

    個人看法 目前經營團隊 都是後衛理念 NBA傳統系統戰術為主
    對4 5號位置Perkins 並不看非常重要 當然希望會留下 但不得已時會忍痛放棄
    如果這兩年Perkins 能再多進步一些 像Rondo的霸氣 多搶一些績效 或許管理階層會拼死留下不做交易
    或許在她們的觀念裡 Rondo+GAP 是奪冠不可缺少的元素 而現在的Perkins是是奪冠拼圖的一塊 但不是唯一的一塊
    才忍痛交易出去 成功與否 待日後證明是否賭對了

  •  02-28-2011, 9:41 上午 367469 in reply to 367450

    Re: [交易]Boston 多重交易: Perkins, N.Robinson, Daniels, Erden, Harangody(out) / J.Green, Kristic(in)

    celtic13:

    看了一下對快艇的HIGHLIGHT,感覺Kristic沒有那麼軟!

    或許快艇的禁區威力不算太強悍,但我感覺Kristic還不差!

    此人肯拼肯搶還有中距離,投射能力是比Perkins優!

    當然Perkins禁區防守能力跟強悍度就不是Kristic可以取代的!

    我個人覺得快艇的禁區並不弱,B.Griffin + D.Jordan 一攻一守且體能皆勁爆,板凳上還有一個先發級的C.Kaman,不容小覷

    昨天的比賽中,只有KG比較不吃虧,也幸好他在下半場讓Griffin稍微安靜下來

    其餘像是Krstic一下就5犯(但搶下6進攻籃板),Davis忘了自己有多矮、跑去禁區單打然後被搧鍋(他還是比較適合做接球攻擊) 都沒佔便宜

    Btw,據說BOS的小歐會趕在季後賽前回來,希望他如期歸隊、每場貢獻6次犯規

  •  03-03-2011, 12:04 下午 368084 in reply to 366971

    Re: [交易]Boston 多重交易: Perkins, N.Robinson, Daniels, Erden, Harangody(out) / J.Green, Kristic(in)

    mephew1029:

    勇士最慢必須在美國時間2月27日釋出Murphy

    塞隊才能和他簽底薪

    上面的描述是錯的

    三月一日後釋出的球員不能打季後賽

    和釋出兩天後才能簽新合約

    這兩點都是對的

    我搞混成必須在2月27日前釋出和3月1日前簽約

    特此更正一下

    Murphy和其他在三月一日前(含三月一日)釋出的球員都能打季後賽

    釋出兩天後就能簽新合約(含底薪)


    天佑台灣
  •  03-03-2011, 12:24 下午 368088 in reply to 368084

    Re: [交易]Boston 多重交易: Perkins, N.Robinson, Daniels, Erden, Harangody(out) / J.Green, Kristic(in)

    mephew1029:

    三月一日後釋出的球員不能打季後賽

    和釋出兩天後才能簽新合約

    這兩點都是對的

    我搞混成必須在2月27日前釋出和3月1日前簽約

    特此更正一下

    Murphy和其他在三月一日前(含三月一日)釋出的球員都能打季後賽

    釋出兩天後就能簽新合約(含底薪)

    請問大大,Eddy.Curry何時被灰狼隊釋出的?

    假如熱火隊與Eddy.Curry簽約的話,

    他可以打季後賽嗎?


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  •  03-06-2011, 3:57 下午 368774 in reply to 368088

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    Re: [交易]Boston 多重交易: Perkins, N.Robinson, Daniels, Erden, Harangody(out) / J.Green, Kristic(in)

    雷霆与凯尔特人的交易内幕!!!!+

    凯尔特人:我可以给你帕金斯加内特罗宾逊,你拿谁来换?

    雷霆:哇 真的吗?除了杜兰特和维斯布鲁克你随便挑吧

    凯尔特人:我要杰夫格林和科斯蒂奇

    雷霆:成交

    ===========================================================
    (交易完成后)

    雷霆:操!加内特呢??!!


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  •  03-06-2011, 4:00 下午 368775 in reply to 368774

    Re: [交易]Boston 多重交易: Perkins, N.Robinson, Daniels, Erden, Harangody(out) / J.Green, Kristic(in)

    PMABEAR:

    雷霆与凯尔特人的交易内幕!!!!+

    凯尔特人:我可以给你帕金斯加内特罗宾逊,你拿谁来换?

    雷霆:哇 真的吗?除了杜兰特和维斯布鲁克你随便挑吧

    凯尔特人:我要杰夫格林和科斯蒂奇

    雷霆:成交

    ===========================================================
    (交易完成后)

    雷霆:操!加内特呢??!!

     

    哈哈哈哈...這個有意思 

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