看來這一次籃協改選表面看不出什麼端倪,其實暗潮洶湧,不過還是認為該換個團隊進場,
否則許多檯面下的陋習看來很難改善,即使新的不見得好,至少能洗個牌.                                                                                 

至於球評的資格水準到是見人見智,如果真的都要用同樣嚴格的科班標準我想許多的記者
可能都不用幹了,不管是政治 財經 社會 ...最重要的還是論述內容與觀眾需求吧!                                  

 在現在資訊發達人民也有較多發言媒介的環境,其實如果真的有不妥違反普遍社會正義或
價值觀的繆論,被檢驗攻擊的空間機會也越來越多,就像這次李先生事件一樣,不過還是對事
不對人才好要不然又搞到挺人抵制人的情況只會讓事情失焦,最重要的還是大家的判斷力吧!
另外,如果能有更多圈內人願意多發聲,許多的誤解或觀念才有可能釐清,也才有機會提昇諸多
球迷的見識.

我一點也不覺得朱sir在這件事情上有不對的地方!

完全的就事論事 該挺就挺 該批就批!

反到是自稱"高景炎"的老兄

討論完全偏離主題

左批一下 朱sir轉撥方式不好 說請朱sir轉撥的人有問題

右酸一下朱sir完全沒打過正規籃球 講起球來說服力不足

再來就是內幕你高先生都很了的樣子

但怎麼不見你拿出媒體人的風骨 專題的發表你的內幕與看法呢?

電子or平面都可以

 結論是我覺得朱sir有在用他媒體人的身份 努力的想讓臺灣籃壇更好

(關注學生籃球 注重體制 ....太多了)

這壹點上 他是臺灣籃球人的楷模!

個人淺見~主播與球評本來就是扮演不同的角色

前者主要是將球賽過程讓觀眾能如同身歷其境般

後者才是針對球賽內容或球員作細部的講解

另外~既然是就事論事~那跟每個人的轉播風格何干?

比朱大腕更科科的球評都能上主播台了~是誰的問題?

若要求每個球評都得口條流利~對話風趣~專業知識豐富~外型又不差才能上台

試問台灣找得出幾個這樣的專業球評? 電視台又該給多少PAY?

不管是什麼身分~大家把自己所知~所見~所想給表達出來最重要~

時代已經改變~權威不見得就是對的~每個人都有自己判斷的權力.

wesdeneo:

我覺得好笑的是 撂英文不夠輪轉就算了 竟然連Barkley的名字都拼錯

敢情這位高大記者是以為圓球沒有國外讀者來取經 還是立志想成為山寨版的"Barkeley"?

 不管他是不是高景炎~他的英文不差喔...也不會不夠輪轉~是滿正式的措辭~非口語~

只是abc像他這樣英文好中文也好的實在不多~

但八面玲瓏我認同~在電視上覺得他是十分有親和力的人~但有一次在新店高中看到他~有高中生主動想跟他鬥牛~

原本有親和力的臉變成完全不看人愛理不理的臉~我心想~哇~差好多喔~雖然常上電視但應該不是有名到可以這樣耍酷的程度吧

我記得他是以前華人小馬隊的~不過看到他打球時~速度跟爆發力已經沒了~沒練是有點差~

但他的講評確實專業~中肯~口語也流暢~

朱哥充滿了對籃球的熱忱~雖然常有很多情緒化的字眼~但無法掩飾他對籃球的熱愛~而且不管在男女籃上~他的意見真的都相當中肯

有一年的瓊斯自爽盃曾文鼎打爆了所有國家的禁區~對菲律賓一役~可以很明顯的看出裁判幫了非常大的忙~

我是有點覺得太超過~緯來主播張xx大聲叫好~但此時朱歌卻說~這樣對往後的中華隊不好~兩人只差沒在電視前槓起來~

當下我覺得~國內籃壇需要這樣的媒體~熱愛籃球而且中肯~只是可能會得罪非常多的人吧

國泰事件的內幕我相信99.99%的球迷都不知道~但女籃死水的情況我200%相信~因為這不是只有在女籃才會有~

相同情況的在不同的圈內如出一轍~最上位的老頭只是想保住自己的位子~受傷的幾乎都是年輕的選手~

我想(只是我想)國泰這次罷賽怕的並不是姜鳳君進入電信會帶給國泰本身多大的震撼~

只是先例一出~往後企業苦心綁住的球員卻再也綁不住了~落得幫別人訓練選手的情況~對上對下都沒辦法解釋~

沒辦法解釋的情況下~負責這部份的人有很高的機會會接受處份~

姜鳳君並不一定可以在這次的事件中勝出~但往後這低迷落後的情況應該會有機會慢慢改善~

只是苦了這位有天份又有頭腦的球員

lesia0819:

wesdeneo:

我覺得好笑的是 撂英文不夠輪轉就算了 竟然連Barkley的名字都拼錯

敢情這位高大記者是以為圓球沒有國外讀者來取經 還是立志想成為山寨版的"Barkeley"?

 不管他是不是高景炎~他的英文不差喔...也不會不夠輪轉~是滿正式的措辭~非口語~

只是abc像他這樣英文好中文也好的實在不多~

但八面玲瓏我認同~在電視上覺得他是十分有親和力的人~但有一次在新店高中看到他~有高中生主動想跟他鬥牛~

原本有親和力的臉變成完全不看人愛理不理的臉~我心想~哇~差好多喔~雖然常上電視但應該不是有名到可以這樣耍酷的程度吧

我記得他是以前華人小馬隊的~不過看到他打球時~速度跟爆發力已經沒了~沒練是有點差~

但他的講評確實專業~中肯~口語也流暢~

朱哥充滿了對籃球的熱忱~雖然常有很多情緒化的字眼~但無法掩飾他對籃球的熱愛~而且不管在男女籃上~他的意見真的都相當中肯

有一年的瓊斯自爽盃曾文鼎打爆了所有國家的禁區~對菲律賓一役~可以很明顯的看出裁判幫了非常大的忙~

我是有點覺得太超過~緯來主播張xx大聲叫好~但此時朱歌卻說~這樣對往後的中華隊不好~兩人只差沒在電視前槓起來~

當下我覺得~國內籃壇需要這樣的媒體~熱愛籃球而且中肯~只是可能會得罪非常多的人吧

國泰事件的內幕我相信99.99%的球迷都不知道~但女籃死水的情況我200%相信~因為這不是只有在女籃才會有~

相同情況的在不同的圈內如出一轍~最上位的老頭只是想保住自己的位子~受傷的幾乎都是年輕的選手~

我想(只是我想)國泰這次罷賽怕的並不是姜鳳君進入電信會帶給國泰本身多大的震撼~

只是先例一出~往後企業苦心綁住的球員卻再也綁不住了~落得幫別人訓練選手的情況~對上對下都沒辦法解釋~

沒辦法解釋的情況下~負責這部份的人有很高的機會會接受處份~

姜鳳君並不一定可以在這次的事件中勝出~但往後這低迷落後的情況應該會有機會慢慢改善~

只是苦了這位有天份又有頭腦的球員

 

 其實觀察了一下, 有點懷疑他是否真的昰高景炎...

在電視上的高景炎口才很好, 中英都不錯, 而且說話相當理性, 有條理 

而這位"高景炎", 英文怪怪

" You have already invading other's personal matter.  would you like others to do the same to you?  "

這一句就不太對勁了, 還在暱稱上連charles barkley都拼錯

這似乎不是個專業球評的程度...

不是說我喜歡糾正別人英文, 而是高景炎在大多數人心目中都是專業的代表, 行象很好, 跟這位仁兄差了不少...

大家要是看到長的象王力宏的去找檳榔西施, 也會懷疑他是否真的昰王力宏吧?

那句我有發現~是很怪~而且如果我是高先生~應該不會來淌這種混水才是~因為會破壞自己的形象

而且~說實在的~也不關一個拿美國護照的人的事阿~他的工作就是做好球評然後拿薪水就對了~這是美國人的思維

嗯，其實我們大家還是回歸主題好了，國內女籃的實力到目前為止在亞洲都還是有很好的競爭性，我們以主流的大球運動來看，足球別提了，排球台灣的實力在亞洲也退居二流，女籃是我們在亞洲少數大球中有競爭性的，可是國內關注的眼光是不足的，當然世界各國都一樣，女子團隊的運動項目要有獨立的市場是困難的，因而企業的支持就變得很重要。

這點單項協會或體育主管機關是有招商找贊助的必要，這裡頭可以討論的問題其實很多很多，但是情緒上理智上與法理上國泰的做法大家很難接受，問題在於「企業」在這個運動中佔的影響性究竟有多大...

剩下四個企業，其中還有兩個半公營，外加一個宗教團體...資源的壟斷性要怎麼說呢，真的沒有國泰...然後呢？這使得籃協根本上是不敢下重手的，制度墮落是顯而易見的，但是解決之道在哪裡呢？譴責國泰是必然的，那是站在姜鳳君工作權的立場；但是國泰要強硬也有他的道理，如果國泰真的撤掉對幼隊的支援，很難想像會不會有連鎖的反應？對女籃究竟是好還是壞呢？

國泰可以壟斷源自籃協對女籃的關注與發展策略不夠，自然國泰可以要挾籃協，可是退一萬步如果今天請大家捐錢支持女籃，或是你是企業家請你養女籃、女足與女排，您真的有意願嗎？

難難難... 

市場不足..那可不可以抵稅？或是有沒有外溢的廣告效果？

按朱哥說的，連最火紅的HBL目前都出現困境，我們怎麼寄望WSBL？

那國泰又怎麼可能不繼續獨大呢？

我想新任的理事長得好好想想怎麼當一個成功的「生意人」，就是「招商」、「贊助」與「金援」，加油了！

朱彥碩:

become Barkeley:

既然大家對我的看法覺得是我在找碴, 而不是針對事實,我也沒辦法,每個人都有自己的論點,我從來沒有也不必躲在網路的別名裡,網上有人知道我是誰,你們也從來沒問過我是誰,所以我也沒有三八到跟別人說我叫高景炎.  Someone mentioned Barkeley with sense of dis-respect, this is your personal option, I respect that. Charles has personal issues, but as a player, he always played hard and very frank with what he thinks.  

你們認為不用會打籃球也可以評論籃球,我也沒意見, 這是你們的觀點ok,我保持跟你們不同的看法, 我個人認為沒有實際打球或教球的經驗是不可能在評論上有同理心的

To朱先生,我來圓球絕對不是來看你的文章, 請你講評的人絕對也有判斷上的問題,評論你我算老幾? 我至少做籃球評論比你資深,籃球經歷比你多,你有你的方式good for you, 你沒有理由在比賽當中動不動就針對一個play否定一個球員的努力, 甚至曾經叫一個表現不好的NBA球員"去死了算了"這是一個非常理性的評論?還是一個很有建設性的建議?  依我看來這就叫胡說八道, 我在我的文中提到主管單位及其他單位去影響媒體,我有說過收買嗎?請問你影響=收買嗎?你一廂情願的把自己悲情化,用提告來威脅,對我看來這也叫胡說八道,你要找我很簡單,打給小豪或屁哥, 他們都有我的電話. 我隨時候教  你在網友一面倒的討伐李亦申出來援助他,我覺得夠義氣,但公佈他家中狀況真的蠻遜.

籃協現在有李一中大記者把關,身為籃球大記者的你一定要知道, 至於我們偉大的理事長邀請李大記者加入應該就是要對媒體加強溝通吧

就算你叫「高景炎」，那又如何？你有你熟悉的領域，我有我熟悉的地方，什麼叫「沒打過籃球」就不能評論？你做為一個球評，對目前台灣籃球的現況，就算從你是一個球評的角度，你盡過多少心力？發過多少聲音？

 

我的工作是讓球迷喜歡看球賽，對球賽有感覺，不是在教人怎麼打球。該罵該批的時候我就會講，我尊重你的風格，你尊不尊重我的風格，那是你的事。我沒你那八面玲瓏誰都不得罪的本事，那也不是我的格調。

 

李一中做籃協新聞組，加強對媒體溝通，有錯嗎？難道不請媒體中的人來做媒體溝通角色才是對的？你說去「影響」，到底是什麼「影響」？你也沒說清楚，卻提到誰誰誰有沒有被王人達找去澳門，這不是影射是什麼？

 

我不會跟你吵，也不想跟你吵，不是我吵不過你，只是不想造成兩個球評對幹的局面。而你說李亦伸的部份，你最好把話收回去，太難看了。

 

Whatever you say.  I am not doing anything for Taiwan basketball????   you are just too egocentric, talking shit about others is not exactly doing Taiwan basketball any good,  because all you ever do is talking shit about players when they screw up, you have completely overlooked the hard work and disrespect the athletes  .  I am sure you have never heard of term action speaks louder than words.  I not going to brag about what I have done for Taiwan basketball, but since you asked, I am going to tell you. While I was at Nike, I helped creating SBL, while I was with Videoland sports I negotiated NBA broadcasting contract so you can do the game, I send Wu Dye How to Hawaii BYU, my subordinates followed my footsteps to send Jet chang to Hawaii to help improve Taiwan players .   I have helped 2 players who have no financial support to get thru college, both of them are playing in SBL now.   what have you done?   talking shit about others?   telling people how player screw up?  I gave you your first job with Hoop Taiwan when you were a tunnel digger, I isolated the entire company because you had some health problem.( I am not going to disclose your health history).  I negoiated with new management when Ritek decided close the company so you can keep your job.   You have no professional morals by disclose other's personal issues, you have to improve on that.

As for Lee I Chuang working for CTBA, if you don't think that is an issue, good for you,   because the fact is the issue is bigger and deeper than you can ever imagine.   By hiring Lee, CTBA will influence the media to help Wong's candidate to win another term of CTBA Chair.   That is exactly what you and others wanted??? another 4 years of Wong's ruling?   I am sure that is not an issue with you because you don't seem to think Wong is the root of our problem. 

I have had enough with your harsh words towards the players, you better improve on that, you have no respect for the foundation and key elements for the game, you have overlooked the hard work,dedication, committments of the players.   Like I say, if you have any issues with me? my damn phone is always on. 

Do know why NBA colors are done by people like Mark Jackson, John Barry,Keith Erickson, Stu Lance, Doug Collins, Charles Barkely, Magic Johnson, Clarke Kellog and not Scoop Jackson?    Because the players know the game of basketball and how it is played, the writters only the know the game.   

I have dedicated more of my time and effort for Taiwan basketball and produced real and solid results than just words and writting, I am certainly not going to let you punk me around the net like some chumps.   You have putting words in my mouth and mis-guided others, I have stated facts and I am proud to stand by what I believe in.   If you are really going to help Taiwan basketball, you better shut the hell up and produce some real reults.  Lastly, I am certainly not going to take back what I said about you expose other's personal matters, that is just unprofessional .    

become Barkeley:

Whatever you say.  I am not doing anything for Taiwan basketball????   you are just too egocentric, talking shit about others is not exactly doing Taiwan basketball any good,  because all you ever do is talking shit about players when they screw up, you have completely overlooked the hard work and disrespect the athletes  .  I am sure you have never heard of term action speaks louder than words.  I not going to brag about what I have done for Taiwan basketball, but since you asked, I am going to tell you. While I was at Nike, I helped creating SBL, while I was with Videoland sports I negotiated NBA broadcasting contract so you can do the game, I send Wu Dye How to Hawaii BYU, my subordinates followed my footsteps to send Jet chang to Hawaii to help improve Taiwan players .   I have helped 2 players who have no financial support to get thru college, both of them are playing in SBL now.   what have you done?   talking shit about others?   telling people how player screw up?  I gave you your first job with Hoop Taiwan when you were a tunnel digger, I isolated the entire company because you had some health problem.( I am not going to disclose your health history).  I negoiated with new management when Ritek decided close the company so you can keep your job.   You have no professional morals by disclose other's personal issues, you have to improve on that.

As for Lee I Chuang working for CTBA, if you don't think that is an issue, good for you,   because the fact is the issue is bigger and deeper than you can ever imagine.   By hiring Lee, CTBA will influence the media to help Wong's candidate to win another term of CTBA Chair.   That is exactly what you and others wanted??? another 4 years of Wong's ruling?   I am sure that is not an issue with you because you don't seem to think Wong is the root of our problem. 

I have had enough with your harsh words towards the players, you better improve on that, you have no respect for the foundation and key elements for the game, you have overlooked the hard work,dedication, committments of the players.   Like I say, if you have any issues with me? my damn phone is always on. 

Do know why NBA colors are done by people like Mark Jackson, John Barry,Keith Erickson, Stu Lance, Doug Collins, Charles Barkely, Magic Johnson, Clarke Kellog and not Scoop Jackson?    Because the players know the game of basketball and how it is played, the writters only the know the game.   

I have dedicated more of my time and effort for Taiwan basketball and produced real and solid results than just words and writting, I am certainly not going to let you punk me around the net like some chumps.   You have putting words in my mouth and mis-guided others, I have stated facts and I am proud to stand by what I believe in.   If you are really going to help Taiwan basketball, you better shut the hell up and produce some real reults.  Lastly, I am certainly not going to take back what I said about you expose other's personal matters, that is just unprofessional .

雖然用辜狗翻譯了解大概的意思~但某些細節還是無法確定~請問有強者願意翻譯一下的嗎?

無論如何~大家都用自己的方式在為台灣籃球奉獻心力~就別太計較什麼資格或經歷了~好嗎?

各退一步 海闊天空~把討論焦點拉回國泰與裘爺的文章上~不然可能就要找老闆來擺攤囉~XD

說真的，我還真不知道我們到底在爭個什麼東西。是對我個人的討伐？還是對什麼事情的執著？

我從2008年奧運會後，就沒有在台灣的電視台轉播過任何籃球比賽，難為高先生還記得我之前去罵那個球員去死、因為那個play去否定那個球員的一切努力。我不記得我這麼做過或說過，不知道是那一場那個人我曾經這麼說過，願聞其詳。至少你會記得此事，兩年以前的球賽我說過什麼，我很是感動。

你在Nike任上對台灣籃球是有貢獻，我並沒有否定，而當時你並非媒體角色。而後來呢？

我對你當時雇用我到Hoop去，一直記在心上，所以並未對你惡言相向。今天我講李亦伸家裡的一些事，只是要提醒球迷不要因言廢人，並非什麼不可告人之事。就連我的病，9年前得過肺結核，我早就公諸於世，更不是什麼不可說之隱私。

再說到李一中的事，籃協為什麼顧用他做新聞組長，我不清楚。但說要用他來達到你說的「影響」輿論，恐怕是想太多了。誰會受李一中的影響？我不是看不起中哥的影響力，而是他壓根就沒去想影響過什麼。我不明白你提出這些東西，事實是否存在？至少，我不曾感受過。

我一直相信人在做，天在看，在我的角色上，我自認在我的工作上問心無愧。至於你要怎麼看怎麼說，別人怎麼看怎麼說，不是我能管得了的。

andy168899:

嗯，其實我們大家還是回歸主題好了，國內女籃的實力到目前為止在亞洲都還是有很好的競爭性，我們以主流的大球運動來看，足球別提了，排球台灣的實力在亞洲也退居二流，女籃是我們在亞洲少數大球中有競爭性的，可是國內關注的眼光是不足的，當然世界各國都一樣，女子團隊的運動項目要有獨立的市場是困難的，因而企業的支持就變得很重要。

這點單項協會或體育主管機關是有招商找贊助的必要，這裡頭可以討論的問題其實很多很多，但是情緒上理智上與法理上國泰的做法大家很難接受，問題在於「企業」在這個運動中佔的影響性究竟有多大...

剩下四個企業，其中還有兩個半公營，外加一個宗教團體...資源的壟斷性要怎麼說呢，真的沒有國泰...然後呢？這使得籃協根本上是不敢下重手的，制度墮落是顯而易見的，但是解決之道在哪裡呢？譴責國泰是必然的，那是站在姜鳳君工作權的立場；但是國泰要強硬也有他的道理，如果國泰真的撤掉對幼隊的支援，很難想像會不會有連鎖的反應？對女籃究竟是好還是壞呢？

國泰可以壟斷源自籃協對女籃的關注與發展策略不夠，自然國泰可以要挾籃協，可是退一萬步如果今天請大家捐錢支持女籃，或是你是企業家請你養女籃、女足與女排，您真的有意願嗎？

難難難... 

市場不足..那可不可以抵稅？或是有沒有外溢的廣告效果？

按朱哥說的，連最火紅的HBL目前都出現困境，我們怎麼寄望WSBL？

那國泰又怎麼可能不繼續獨大呢？

我想新任的理事長得好好想想怎麼當一個成功的「生意人」，就是「招商」、「贊助」與「金援」，加油了！

 

女籃還有一個嚴重的問題：想自己出來贊助的企業，看到國泰這種獨大法，都打退堂鼓了。之前遠東徐旭東也想搞，後來不了了之。而籃協坐視女籃生態日漸畸形，只是這本不是個被關注的焦點，說句難聽話，辦個瓊斯杯會生錢的都是男籃而非女籃，女籃球隊一支一支倒掉的時候，問題就來了，但也沒有影響太大。普門是因為後台實在太硬，但饒是如此，也經歷過慘烈的草創期，現在他們在年輕球員的素質上有所提升，但成人隊與其他球隊相比還有很大差距。

我心目中女籃最好的時代是在80年代，我家剛搬到中華體育館旁邊時，開始看籃球那時開始的，當時還有華航、南亞、亞東等等球隊，跟日本的女籃很像。我們不求多，只希望真正落實到各球隊不要伸手向下挖人。過去我也問過孫朝前秘書長，男籃可以斷掉綁球員、給營養金的問題，女籃呢？他只能睜一隻眼、閉一隻眼。因為球隊給錢，家長收錢，還不都是你情我願的？

你講得很好，真正需要去掌管籃協的，不是一個純籃球人，那怕不懂籃球也沒關係。但他需要懂行銷，知道怎麼去操作市場。但籃協還不是最重要的位子：最需要這顆腦袋的，是體委會主委。而歷任做主委做得最好的，卻是民進黨政府時期、非體育科班出身的林德福。

真好玩,文法錯這麼多還敢自稱高景炎...

喔對了,你知道你把"Barkley"也拼錯了吧?

become Barkeley:

朱彥碩:

become Barkeley:

既然大家對我的看法覺得是我在找碴, 而不是針對事實,我也沒辦法,每個人都有自己的論點,我從來沒有也不必躲在網路的別名裡,網上有人知道我是誰,你們也從來沒問過我是誰,所以我也沒有三八到跟別人說我叫高景炎.  Someone mentioned Barkeley with sense of dis-respect, this is your personal option, I respect that. Charles has personal issues, but as a player, he always played hard and very frank with what he thinks.  

你們認為不用會打籃球也可以評論籃球,我也沒意見, 這是你們的觀點ok,我保持跟你們不同的看法, 我個人認為沒有實際打球或教球的經驗是不可能在評論上有同理心的

To朱先生,我來圓球絕對不是來看你的文章, 請你講評的人絕對也有判斷上的問題,評論你我算老幾? 我至少做籃球評論比你資深,籃球經歷比你多,你有你的方式good for you, 你沒有理由在比賽當中動不動就針對一個play否定一個球員的努力, 甚至曾經叫一個表現不好的NBA球員"去死了算了"這是一個非常理性的評論?還是一個很有建設性的建議?  依我看來這就叫胡說八道, 我在我的文中提到主管單位及其他單位去影響媒體,我有說過收買嗎?請問你影響=收買嗎?你一廂情願的把自己悲情化,用提告來威脅,對我看來這也叫胡說八道,你要找我很簡單,打給小豪或屁哥, 他們都有我的電話. 我隨時候教  你在網友一面倒的討伐李亦申出來援助他,我覺得夠義氣,但公佈他家中狀況真的蠻遜.

籃協現在有李一中大記者把關,身為籃球大記者的你一定要知道, 至於我們偉大的理事長邀請李大記者加入應該就是要對媒體加強溝通吧

就算你叫「高景炎」，那又如何？你有你熟悉的領域，我有我熟悉的地方，什麼叫「沒打過籃球」就不能評論？你做為一個球評，對目前台灣籃球的現況，就算從你是一個球評的角度，你盡過多少心力？發過多少聲音？

 

我的工作是讓球迷喜歡看球賽，對球賽有感覺，不是在教人怎麼打球。該罵該批的時候我就會講，我尊重你的風格，你尊不尊重我的風格，那是你的事。我沒你那八面玲瓏誰都不得罪的本事，那也不是我的格調。

 

李一中做籃協新聞組，加強對媒體溝通，有錯嗎？難道不請媒體中的人來做媒體溝通角色才是對的？你說去「影響」，到底是什麼「影響」？你也沒說清楚，卻提到誰誰誰有沒有被王人達找去澳門，這不是影射是什麼？

 

我不會跟你吵，也不想跟你吵，不是我吵不過你，只是不想造成兩個球評對幹的局面。而你說李亦伸的部份，你最好把話收回去，太難看了。

 

Whatever you say.  I am not doing anything for Taiwan basketball????   you are just too egocentric, talking shit about others is not exactly doing Taiwan basketball any good,  because all you ever do is talking shit about players when they screw up, you have completely overlooked the hard work and disrespect the athletes  .  I am sure you have never heard of term action speaks louder than words.  I not going to brag about what I have done for Taiwan basketball, but since you asked, I am going to tell you. While I was at Nike, I helped creating SBL, while I was with Videoland sports I negotiated NBA broadcasting contract so you can do the game, I send Wu Dye How to Hawaii BYU, my subordinates followed my footsteps to send Jet chang to Hawaii to help improve Taiwan players .   I have helped 2 players who have no financial support to get thru college, both of them are playing in SBL now.   what have you done?   talking shit about others?   telling people how player screw up?  I gave you your first job with Hoop Taiwan when you were a tunnel digger, I isolated the entire company because you had some health problem.( I am not going to disclose your health history).  I negoiated with new management when Ritek decided close the company so you can keep your job.   You have no professional morals by disclose other's personal issues, you have to improve on that.

As for Lee I Chuang working for CTBA, if you don't think that is an issue, good for you,   because the fact is the issue is bigger and deeper than you can ever imagine.   By hiring Lee, CTBA will influence the media to help Wong's candidate to win another term of CTBA Chair.   That is exactly what you and others wanted??? another 4 years of Wong's ruling?   I am sure that is not an issue with you because you don't seem to think Wong is the root of our problem. 

I have had enough with your harsh words towards the players, you better improve on that, you have no respect for the foundation and key elements for the game, you have overlooked the hard work,dedication, committments of the players.   Like I say, if you have any issues with me? my damn phone is always on. 

Do know why NBA colors are done by people like Mark Jackson, John Barry,Keith Erickson, Stu Lance, Doug Collins, Charles Barkely, Magic Johnson, Clarke Kellog and not Scoop Jackson?    Because the players know the game of basketball and how it is played, the writters only the know the game.   

I have dedicated more of my time and effort for Taiwan basketball and produced real and solid results than just words and writting, I am certainly not going to let you punk me around the net like some chumps.   You have putting words in my mouth and mis-guided others, I have stated facts and I am proud to stand by what I believe in.   If you are really going to help Taiwan basketball, you better shut the hell up and produce some real reults.  Lastly, I am certainly not going to take back what I said about you expose other's personal matters, that is just unprofessional .    

真好玩,文法錯這麼多還敢用英文,還自稱高景炎...

憑這個破英文也可以跟NBA談,難怪台灣的轉播常常被球迷嫌.

憑這個破英文幫吳岱豪進BYU,難怪他沒辦法更上一層樓

球評的工作就是出一張嘴. so why can't he talk shit?

everyone talks shit about players when they screw things up, so according to you, we shouldn't be doing that cuz we've never really "contributed" anything to Taiwanese basketball? what kinda bullshit theory is that? y dun u jus stfu and f off. 別在這裡冒充大家所喜愛的kenny. go get a life.

朱彥碩:

說真的，我還真不知道我們到底在爭個什麼東西。是對我個人的討伐？還是對什麼事情的執著？

 

今天我講李亦伸家裡的一些事，只是要提醒球迷不要因言廢人，並非什麼不可告人之事。就連我的病，9年前得過肺結核，我早就公諸於世，更不是什麼不可說之隱私。

以現在的世道來說，誰挺李亦伸，誰就會被亂石砸，畢竟李亦伸這幾年的爭議性文章已經多到一個不可勝數的境界了。(朱哥你不要忘了朱子啊！)

至於隱私這回事，歐美人士對工作同事家人的了解可是非常少的，因為那是個人隱私，甚至在應徵時，人力資源部門也不可以問，那是違法的。

台灣習以為常的事，在美國是違法的，這點可能會出乎台灣人意料。你把他父親重病的消息講出來，在美國可能會導致公司把他列入裁員黑名單。你肺結核的病歷，也可能在未來導致你找新工作到處碰壁。(以美國國情來說)

你講出這些事，對一個美國人來說簡直是怵目驚心。

andlmky:

become Barkeley:

朱彥碩:

become Barkeley:

既然大家對我的看法覺得是我在找碴, 而不是針對事實,我也沒辦法,每個人都有自己的論點,我從來沒有也不必躲在網路的別名裡,網上有人知道我是誰,你們也從來沒問過我是誰,所以我也沒有三八到跟別人說我叫高景炎.  Someone mentioned Barkeley with sense of dis-respect, this is your personal option, I respect that. Charles has personal issues, but as a player, he always played hard and very frank with what he thinks.  

你們認為不用會打籃球也可以評論籃球,我也沒意見, 這是你們的觀點ok,我保持跟你們不同的看法, 我個人認為沒有實際打球或教球的經驗是不可能在評論上有同理心的

To朱先生,我來圓球絕對不是來看你的文章, 請你講評的人絕對也有判斷上的問題,評論你我算老幾? 我至少做籃球評論比你資深,籃球經歷比你多,你有你的方式good for you, 你沒有理由在比賽當中動不動就針對一個play否定一個球員的努力, 甚至曾經叫一個表現不好的NBA球員"去死了算了"這是一個非常理性的評論?還是一個很有建設性的建議?  依我看來這就叫胡說八道, 我在我的文中提到主管單位及其他單位去影響媒體,我有說過收買嗎?請問你影響=收買嗎?你一廂情願的把自己悲情化,用提告來威脅,對我看來這也叫胡說八道,你要找我很簡單,打給小豪或屁哥, 他們都有我的電話. 我隨時候教  你在網友一面倒的討伐李亦申出來援助他,我覺得夠義氣,但公佈他家中狀況真的蠻遜.

籃協現在有李一中大記者把關,身為籃球大記者的你一定要知道, 至於我們偉大的理事長邀請李大記者加入應該就是要對媒體加強溝通吧

就算你叫「高景炎」，那又如何？你有你熟悉的領域，我有我熟悉的地方，什麼叫「沒打過籃球」就不能評論？你做為一個球評，對目前台灣籃球的現況，就算從你是一個球評的角度，你盡過多少心力？發過多少聲音？

 

我的工作是讓球迷喜歡看球賽，對球賽有感覺，不是在教人怎麼打球。該罵該批的時候我就會講，我尊重你的風格，你尊不尊重我的風格，那是你的事。我沒你那八面玲瓏誰都不得罪的本事，那也不是我的格調。

 

李一中做籃協新聞組，加強對媒體溝通，有錯嗎？難道不請媒體中的人來做媒體溝通角色才是對的？你說去「影響」，到底是什麼「影響」？你也沒說清楚，卻提到誰誰誰有沒有被王人達找去澳門，這不是影射是什麼？

 

我不會跟你吵，也不想跟你吵，不是我吵不過你，只是不想造成兩個球評對幹的局面。而你說李亦伸的部份，你最好把話收回去，太難看了。

 

Whatever you say.  I am not doing anything for Taiwan basketball????   you are just too egocentric, talking shit about others is not exactly doing Taiwan basketball any good,  because all you ever do is talking shit about players when they screw up, you have completely overlooked the hard work and disrespect the athletes  .  I am sure you have never heard of term action speaks louder than words.  I not going to brag about what I have done for Taiwan basketball, but since you asked, I am going to tell you. While I was at Nike, I helped creating SBL, while I was with Videoland sports I negotiated NBA broadcasting contract so you can do the game, I send Wu Dye How to Hawaii BYU, my subordinates followed my footsteps to send Jet chang to Hawaii to help improve Taiwan players .   I have helped 2 players who have no financial support to get thru college, both of them are playing in SBL now.   what have you done?   talking shit about others?   telling people how player screw up?  I gave you your first job with Hoop Taiwan when you were a tunnel digger, I isolated the entire company because you had some health problem.( I am not going to disclose your health history).  I negoiated with new management when Ritek decided close the company so you can keep your job.   You have no professional morals by disclose other's personal issues, you have to improve on that.

As for Lee I Chuang working for CTBA, if you don't think that is an issue, good for you,   because the fact is the issue is bigger and deeper than you can ever imagine.   By hiring Lee, CTBA will influence the media to help Wong's candidate to win another term of CTBA Chair.   That is exactly what you and others wanted??? another 4 years of Wong's ruling?   I am sure that is not an issue with you because you don't seem to think Wong is the root of our problem. 

I have had enough with your harsh words towards the players, you better improve on that, you have no respect for the foundation and key elements for the game, you have overlooked the hard work,dedication, committments of the players.   Like I say, if you have any issues with me? my damn phone is always on. 

Do know why NBA colors are done by people like Mark Jackson, John Barry,Keith Erickson, Stu Lance, Doug Collins, Charles Barkely, Magic Johnson, Clarke Kellog and not Scoop Jackson?    Because the players know the game of basketball and how it is played, the writters only the know the game.   

I have dedicated more of my time and effort for Taiwan basketball and produced real and solid results than just words and writting, I am certainly not going to let you punk me around the net like some chumps.   You have putting words in my mouth and mis-guided others, I have stated facts and I am proud to stand by what I believe in.   If you are really going to help Taiwan basketball, you better shut the hell up and produce some real reults.  Lastly, I am certainly not going to take back what I said about you expose other's personal matters, that is just unprofessional .    

 

真好玩,文法錯這麼多還敢用英文,還自稱高景炎...

喔對了,你知道你把"Barkley"也拼錯了吧?

憑這個破英文也可以跟NBA談,難怪台灣的轉播常常被球迷嫌.

憑這個破英文幫吳岱豪進BYU,難怪他沒辦法更上一層樓

球評的工作就是出一張嘴. so why can't he talk shit?

everyone talks shit about players when they screw things up, so according to you, we shouldn't be doing that cuz we've never really "contributed" anything to Taiwanese basketball? what kinda bullshit theory is that? y dun u jus stfu and f off. 別在這裡冒充大家所喜愛的kenny. go get a life.

+1

I lmao when I saw him mispelled Barkley yet again. He's probably babbling only in English now cuz ppl called out his funny grammar errors and poor vocabs, which really led to more funny grammar errors and poor vocabs. Kenny or not, this guy is just another fake ABC like so many other pretentious bastards in TW.

btw, note to "become Barkeley", half of the NBA players-turned-color guys that you've mentioned are/were mediocre at best. I guess it's just easy for you to disregard the great color guys like Mike Breen, Al Michaels, Bob Costas and Marv Alberts to support your absurd theory. And guess how many NBA games these guys ever played in total? Zero. You like apple? How 'bout 'em apple?!